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Just got back from seeing it... not really sure if i like it or not...

it was a definitely a break from the utopia that Roddenbery made... very dark...

i wont discuss spoilers... but it was a damn good movie... just not sure it was a star trek movie....

a couple of oddities i noticed.... in once scene, a cardassian drink is ordered... this owuld be almost a century before the events of DS9... also, the TOS cast is all present even though chekov didnt join the crew until the 2nd TOS season...

other than that, the special effects are top notch... the debris in space that gently float away from damaged areas of the ships are spot on... as is the lack of sound in space...
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to get an idea... imagine BSG and the omaha beach scene of saving private ryan combined with a star trek logo...
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Saw it too. Didn't really like nor dislike it, but I'm not a big Trek fan. One thing that did strike me as odd though; there seems to be a burgeoning love affair brewing between Uhura and Spock. WTF? Also, canyons in Iowa?
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FelixEstrella wrote: Also, canyons in Iowa?
Not the last time I looked. Although as a Boy Scout many moons ago, I ran across gullies that seemed pretty steep and deep when trying climb out of them at the end of a 20 mile cross country hike. Especially in the rain.
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mekender wrote:to get an idea... imagine BSG and the omaha beach scene of saving private ryan combined with a star trek logo...
Well Ron Moore (from BSG) was a screenwriter, then add in J.J. Abrahms . . .

Haven't seen it yet, but I am kind of surprised it isn't more a reboot.

Anyone else see the SNL bit on the movie? Pretty funny.
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I liked it and thought it kicked ass.
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FelixEstrella wrote:...there seems to be a burgeoning love affair brewing between Uhura and Spock. WTF?
Well, if you watch the first season of the original series, you can definitely tell Uhura has the hots for Spock; though of course nothing ever comes of it.

I loved the movie, myself.
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randy wrote:
FelixEstrella wrote: Also, canyons in Iowa?
Not the last time I looked. Although as a Boy Scout many moons ago, I ran across gullies that seemed pretty steep and deep when trying climb out of them at the end of a 20 mile cross country hike. Especially in the rain.
the stuff in the movie was quite obviously a mine... the walls were cut too precisely to be natural
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Ok my two biggest problems with the movie are:

1) The action scenes were so in your face that you never were really able to appreciate the level of detail that went into the filming of the movie... I just thought that things moved so fast that they were overwhelming... But that did tend to get your heart rate up...

2) They did a piss poor job of explaining how this was an alternate time line... The events leading up to the movie and the time line changes were significant, to see such drastic changes in what people know as star trek makes them very hard to swallow... A couple of more lines in dialogue during one of the scenes in the middle of the movie could have wrapped it up nicely and left the average viewer with little doubt as to what was happening... As it stands the only people that will understand how the time line works will be the die hard trekkies that actually read up on it... I feel that this will lead to a lot of the less hard core fans to dislike the movie...

Mild spoiler warning... More of a context helper for those that haven't read up on the movie as much as I have.

[spoiler]The time line that Spock comes from places him at approximately 9 years after the USS Voyager returned home from the Delta Quadrant. This would mean that he had been working diplomatically with the Romulans for close to 19 years starting with the events of the 5th season TNG episodes Unification I & II[/spoiler]
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An interesting bit of trivia I found...
The engineering section of the starship USS Enterprise was filmed at the Budweiser beer plant in Van Nuys, California. (J.J. Abrams interview, Jimmy Kimmel Live!).
That is something I liked about the movie, the depth and grittiness of the engineering decks and shuttle bays... None of the TV shows ever showed the down and dirty side of the ship...
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