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MarkD wrote:
Greg wrote:
CByrneIV wrote:Umm... actually, I'd predict that Moore's original statement will be valid.

Yours on the other hand speaks of a level of idealism and optimism I didn't think you were capable of.
I'm afraid Obama is pretty much a definitive guaranty that we won't ever have another. No matter what.
I don't know what you've been drinking, but I want some.

If another black man runs, even if every black person in Washington DC, NYC, Chicago and Los Angeles has to vote six times in six different counties. The Liberals will be falling all over themselves to vote for him to prove they're not racist. It could be Eric Holder, Al Sharpton, Marion Barry or Ray Rice. The very same people who handed Obama the White House twice will do so again.

Unless of course the candidate is Republican. Then of course they're voting principles, not refusing to vote for him because he's black, unlike the people who didn't vote for Obama, the only reason for which could be racism.

Damn, contorting my brain enough to type that gave me a headache.
Because I think there will be some national trauma in the near future, and O will be associated with it. (It could be something as simple as the EBT cards not working. We're a good distance of the way to that one already, and closing fast.)

And memory of trauma lasts a LONG time, and is not rational.
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CByrneIV wrote:Obama isn't even the worst president of the last 50 years, never mind ever (the last 50 years would be Johnson, by about an AU never mind a mile, ever... hard to say... Wilson probably, but there are other candidates).
Respectfully, I'd disagree. I was familiar with the Carter era, and as craptastic as that was, I think our current pretender has surpassed him in craptitude. I note, with some humor, that our current executive gave a speech last night that some wags are comparing to Carter's malaise speech. Comparing it poorly, I might add. Some pundits even called his prognostications "laugh lines" because they were so divorced from reality.

For the record, I'd happily vote for Condi Rice if she ever decided to run.
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Proving Condi's sanity, she's virtually issued the William Tecumseh Sherman policy as her thoughts on the matter.

But neither she nor Herman Cain will be the last such candidates over the next 100 years.
We'll have another black president.

They necessarily won't be the abortion-with-legs of the current A.A. hiree.
And I doubt that they'll be Democrats.

Regardless of the Jackson/Sharpton wing of that party, the DNC as whole is so thoroughly scalded (exactly as everyone told them) I doubt they even consider a black nominee for another fifty years.
Between the economy overall, the pending collapse of the welfare paradigm, and the preferential treatment of illegal brown people over native blacks, I see their demographic in the DNC going nowhere but down over the next generation. Once they can't buy enough crackheads and baby mommas to keep up the internal numbers, that Ponzi hustle collapses from gravity.
With any luck, in my lifetime.
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Aesop wrote:Proving Condi's sanity, she's virtually issued the William Tecumseh Sherman policy as her thoughts on the matter.

But neither she nor Herman Cain will be the last such candidates over the next 100 years.
We'll have another black president.

They necessarily won't be the abortion-with-legs of the current A.A. hiree.
And I doubt that they'll be Democrats.

Regardless of the Jackson/Sharpton wing of that party, the DNC as whole is so thoroughly scalded (exactly as everyone told them) I doubt they even consider a black nominee for another fifty years.
Between the economy overall, the pending collapse of the welfare paradigm, and the preferential treatment of illegal brown people over native blacks, I see their demographic in the DNC going nowhere but down over the next generation. Once they can't buy enough crackheads and baby mommas to keep up the internal numbers, that Ponzi hustle collapses from gravity.
With any luck, in my lifetime.
You are very optimistic.

When the crackheads and baby mommas do what we all know that they're going to do, when the EBT cards stop working.... race relations in this country will make Brazil look cordial.

We're already building up to an anti-black backlash thanks to the actions of O and his place-Holder, and their enabling and encouragement of black-on-non-black violence that the media doesn't want to cover but is being spread by word of mouth anyway.
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Normal growing pains, and some necessary corrections.
We had the Huxtables and Fresh Prince in the same time period as Rodney King.

America has a long history of holding two opposite ideas at the same time, and race relations is just another example.
At the end of the day, Detroit in the 60s or Watts either time only hurt themselves.
If the Perenially Offended Moochers choose to try a readjustment, they'll be culled. Ruthlessly, and with a certain gleeful vigor.
And ten years later, no one will give a f**k unless someone tries to make them heroes via revisionism.

If anything, the one thing holding up decent race relations since at least 1960 has been trying to mollycoddle black people from reality.
Cubans and Vietnamese boat people decades later are proof achievement and success in this country is a result of assimilation, and going along to get along, not trying to succeed with a 90-pound chip on your shoulder, or that not being white dooms you to failure.

Other cultures deride failures, whereas the race hustlers make the biggest proponents their spokesholes. Tolerance for that has reached the drain at the bottom of the pool. And it's about damned time.

And BTW, even Moore noted backhandedly that ZerO is an abject failure, it's just that he's judging that from the standard of thoroughly destroying America to the extent Moore feels was promised. The best part is, whoever v 2.0 is, White Guilt as a Teflon shield to protect incompetence has been expiated, and anybody else assuming the mantle of leadership won't be graded on the curve through coffee-colored glasses, ever again. They got their freebie, and the Lightbringer squandered that to play golf.
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CByrneIV wrote:
PawPaw wrote:
CByrneIV wrote:Obama isn't even the worst president of the last 50 years, never mind ever (the last 50 years would be Johnson, by about an AU never mind a mile, ever... hard to say... Wilson probably, but there are other candidates).
Respectfully, I'd disagree. I was familiar with the Carter era, and as craptastic as that was, I think our current pretender has surpassed him in craptitude.
I said 50 years, not 40.

Obama is certainly worse than Carter.

Neither hold a candle to Johnson though.
Overall I think you're right though it's not really obvious. (Much of Johnson's damage was time-release.) One bonus- without Johnson we wouldn't *have* Obama.
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CByrneIV wrote:
PawPaw wrote:
CByrneIV wrote:Obama isn't even the worst president of the last 50 years, never mind ever (the last 50 years would be Johnson, by about an AU never mind a mile, ever... hard to say... Wilson probably, but there are other candidates).
Respectfully, I'd disagree. I was familiar with the Carter era, and as craptastic as that was, I think our current pretender has surpassed him in craptitude.
I said 50 years, not 40.

Obama is certainly worse than Carter.

Neither hold a candle to Johnson though.

My high school history teacher (I graduated in1981) told us the last GREAT president we had was Johnson.
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MarkD wrote:
CByrneIV wrote:
PawPaw wrote: Respectfully, I'd disagree. I was familiar with the Carter era, and as craptastic as that was, I think our current pretender has surpassed him in craptitude.
I said 50 years, not 40.

Obama is certainly worse than Carter.

Neither hold a candle to Johnson though.

My high school history teacher (I graduated in1981) told us the last GREAT president we had was Johnson.
So your teacher was Old Left, not New Left.
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Or he was referring to Andrew, not Lyndon.
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Aesop wrote:Or he was referring to Andrew, not Lyndon.
Unfortunately, no, he meant LBJ.
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