I ran across this story over at Xavier's blog, which he got from the High Road. A guy was carrying a CZ 82 cocked and locked in a knockoff of a SmartCarry IWB holster, and it went off as he was bent over. He took a shot in the groin, including through his penis and smashing his left testicle. Ouchie. The blame is laid on the thin material of the knockoff holster.
http://xavierthoughts.blogspot.com/2008 ... harge.html
AD/ND, Boy That Had To Hurt
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this is why, no matter how secure these front methods of carry claim to be, I would never carry a gun with it pointed towards "the boys."
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Major +1 to that. I don't care how many people/studies come out saying that is the quickest draw position...no way I'm having the naughty end pointing there. I'm just a bit too attached to them to risk that.eocoolj wrote:this is why, no matter how secure these front methods of carry claim to be, I would never carry a gun with it pointed towards "the boys."
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Yeesh. On a positive note, He now has some air conditioning down there... 

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Re: AD/ND, Boy That Had To Hurt
Carrying a sidearm, cocked and locked, inside a bag where the gun is going to move around (that's not a holster - it's a strap on pocket) is beyond my understanding. It's not Safety First, which IS the essential rule of firearms.
He's damn lucky it didn't rip an artery and kill him.
I truly believe that firearm usage, like mushroom picking, is best learned from a grandfather - someone who has survived the lessons he's teaching.
He's damn lucky it didn't rip an artery and kill him.
I truly believe that firearm usage, like mushroom picking, is best learned from a grandfather - someone who has survived the lessons he's teaching.
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Darrell wrote:The blame is laid on the thin material of the knockoff holster.
I can't think of too many revolvers that would happen to.

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+1 on the revolvers, a nice model 29 or colt anaconda solves many social issues with out shooting holes in yourself .
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Why would anyone carry a double-action auto "cocked and locked"? The point of DA is so you don't need to cock it for the first shot.
The part I really sympathize with is that he had to walk a quarter mile to call for help. Ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch...
The part I really sympathize with is that he had to walk a quarter mile to call for help. Ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch...

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Yikes!
I looked at SmartCarry holsters, but decided against them. I feel like my pancakes are more secure, deeper concealed (for my frame and the frames of my revolvers, anyway), more comfortable, and don't point my weapons at anything that I'm not willing to destroy - which is in the essence of the Four Rules. I don't think that a DA revolver with a hammer block would ever be an issue like that, but why tempt fate after all?
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Re: AD/ND, Boy That Had To Hurt
Umm, to continue Flintlock Tom's question, HOW do you carry a CZ 82 "cocked and locked"? I thought those Makarov clones used the same mechanism as the PPK, that is, the safety is also a de-cocker.