"Close Combat Training"

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Bob K
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"Close Combat Training"

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Any one familiar with this operation? Opinions, please!

http://www.closecombattraining.com/
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Rod
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Re: "Close Combat Training"

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1. Never heard of the guy or the thing.
2. Anyone who advertising "...the world's most..." anything should be doubted.
3.
If you'd like to know how even someone who is slow, out-of-shape and has zero self defense experience can, in one hour or less, know more about surviving brutal street attacks than most black belt karate masters... then this letter will show you how.
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Marko made a list of criteria that's pretty good for evaluating such claims.

For what it's worth, just looking at that site for 10 seconds or so triggered by bullshit allergy.
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I'd add one to his list:

Any martial art that claims that professional assassins as customers.
Used by The U.S. & U.K. Special Forces, bounty hunters, mercenaries and even professional assassins—who don't have time to learn complex and outdated martial arts moves that don't work in "real world" violent attacks.
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By looking at his video and the part in text about WWII combatives...it looks like he was somehow influenced by Carl Cestari who was a study everything a hundred times over "gutter fighting" instructor.

By some of the techniques in the video it looks a lot like the Cestari-Fairbairn-Applegate methods which are pretty highly regarded but I have NO idea of his actual teaching ability or the credentials he lists.

What it comes down to when picking an instructor for "survival fighting" type self defense is how well the instructor communicates to you and if what you learned can be demonstrated under stress.

Too much beyond that and you get into the ford>chevy type of conundrum.
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It's gettin' deep fast on that webpage.
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Guy appears to be a total boob.
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All it needs is the Sham Wow guy selling the product for him.
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"I teach professional assassins" Result: A)If BS, then debunked, and move on, if not BS, and you aren't in the military/part of some other .gov, then here's your subpeona to testify about the killers for hire that you know...
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Re: "Close Combat Training"

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Here is the first google result after his name....
Winner of the prestigious Автомат Калашникова образца 1947 года award for excellence in rural travel.
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