TX: Gun ban fear fuels handgun buying panic!

[308Mike]

It's interesting that nobody ever called the NRA out for ever challenging these laws and taking anti-gunners to the Supreme Court. They never did, despite a clear conservative majority on the Court.

I don't call a 5-4 decision a CLEAR conservative majority on the court. And:

It is popularly accepted that Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Scalia, Thomas, and Alito compose the Court's conservative wing. Justices Stevens, Souter, Ginsburg and Breyer are generally thought of as the Court's liberal wing.[14] Justice Kennedy, generally thought of as a conservative who "occasionally vote[s] with the liberals", is considered most likely to be the swing vote that determines the outcome of certain close cases.

So tell me, where is the CLEAR conservative majority?

[Spells]

Five is more than four. It's a clear majority.

5-4 decisions are also a function of how sweepingly the majority decision is written, and the Heller ruling was very broad, extending into things like carrying firearms. It's unsurprising that you'd only get the minimum majority, but completely unsurprising that the ruling would go the way it did.

[308Mike]

Five is more than four. It's a clear majority.

Sure it's a MAJORITY, but you had stated the court had a clear CONSERVATIVE majority - which they do not.

5-4 decisions are also a function of how sweepingly the majority decision is written, and the Heller ruling was very broad, extending into things like carrying firearms. It's unsurprising that you'd only get the minimum majority, but completely unsurprising that the ruling would go the way it did.

It was both broad and narrow, it covered very specific ground and left quite a few things unanswered, since they weren't being argued, but they could have said so all the same. The direction of the ruling is more akin to a compass than a right/left pointer. The ruling went our direction (THIS TIME by a ONE VOTE margin), but it's full impact is more like 30 degrees rather than 90 degrees our way. Dick Heller couldn't even register his semi-auto handgun (and the ruling said handguns are common use) after the decision in his favor.

You say "It's unsurprising that you'd only get the minimum majority," - yet if we truly had a CONSERVATIVE majority as you first stated, it would not be a minimum majority at all.

None of which has anything to do with the topic of this thread, so it needs to get back on topic.

[Rumpshot]

Mike, if it helps, I bought an evil black rifle this summer because of the potential outcome of the pending election.

Now if the rest of the rifle ever gets here, I will get it put together and hopefully sighted in before folks show up for the Rumpshot's Revenge.

[308Mike]

Being in EVIL California, where the subjects can't be trusted with certain cosmetic features on guns, I can't buy a REAL AR-15. I can't call the thing on the end of my M1A barrel a flash hider (muzzle brake), and heaven-forbid there's a bayonet lug underneath!!



GAH! We're working on trying to get this crap fixed.

[Rumpshot]

Mine will have BOTH of those evil things. The bayonet lug will allow me to use it as a spear if I need to.

[cu74]

JMO, but you see these organizations on the left and right who do not actually want the issues they advocate resolved, because it would lessen their influence.

Ah, a wee bit of cynicism emerges, (and not a bad thing either). It's basic, and base, human nature to try and keep the snout in the trough. Greed, fear and self-preservation are all excellent motivators.

The NRA has a history of attempting to undermine "projects" that didn't originate within the NRA. Moreover, their "big picture" philosophy doesn't always serve them well and gets them in trouble with those of us who have a more local focus. There are more than a few Kansas NRA members that were not impressed with their "support" for the KSRA and Kansas Carry efforts when our concealed carry laws were being legislated. The NRA is a potent force inside the Beltway, but their "grassroots" performance leaves a lot to be desired.

[mekender]

bottom line, the NRA is the biggest advocate for gun rights on the block... they have the most money and the largest recognition... they are also an open organization where anyone can have their voice heard and even move into the higher ranks to get stuff done...

you dont like what they are doing, join them, guide them, and change things to help in the way you see fit.

[Jericho941]

Seems a little article rewording could make antis heads explode.

"STREETS FLOODED WITH GUNS IN WAKE OF BAN FEARS"

"HYPOTHETICAL GUN BANS CAUSE MASSIVE RISE IN OWNERSHIP"

[308Mike]

Seems a little article rewording could make antis heads explode.

"STREETS FLOODED WITH GUNS IN WAKE OF BAN FEARS"

"HYPOTHETICAL GUN BANS CAUSE MASSIVE RISE IN OWNERSHIP"

Do you like the title better now?