USS Ranger CV-4 From World of Warships

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Re: USS Ranger CV-4 From World of Warships

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Perhaps I'm just soft in the head but I am enjoying my USN BBs so far. The shot spread is an issue though, and I red that they are soon going to be tightening up BB shell spread at close range, whatever that means. I do think that that either BBs need a tighter spread, or cruisers need larger ones.
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Keep in mind that real BBs had multiple occasions where hundreds and hundreds of shells were fired without a hit... I think there are what, 2 or 3 actual cases where a BB was legitimately responsible for sinking an enemy ship in WWII. More often, they were credited with helping to sink an already damaged and abandoned allied ship.
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mekender wrote:Keep in mind that real BBs had multiple occasions where hundreds and hundreds of shells were fired without a hit... I think there are what, 2 or 3 actual cases where a BB was legitimately responsible for sinking an enemy ship in WWII. More often, they were credited with helping to sink an already damaged and abandoned allied ship.
What occasions? In WW2, the only direct, decisive battleship-vs-battleship fight I know of was Washington vs Kirishima. That was a night night battle, too.

That said, though, even if this is the case, it makes for miserable gameplay. It basically means that the true purpose of BBs is to absorb a few shots meant for actually-useful ships like cruisers and CVs.

Especially since it's artificially enforced short-range fights to begin with; battleships slugging it out at 6 miles, on calm seas, in broad daylight, are not going to miss. Their secondary batteries certainly aren't going to deflect as far down as possible to shoot the ocean for some reason, either.
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The ships in the game range from WWI through the end of WWII... And the vast number of battles in that time frame were before radar controlled gunnery was widely used. The Battle of Jutland for example, happened at mostly ranges under 10mi and the hit rates for almost all ships were below 5% from what I can find online in a quick look.
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Jericho941 wrote:
mekender wrote:Keep in mind that real BBs had multiple occasions where hundreds and hundreds of shells were fired without a hit... I think there are what, 2 or 3 actual cases where a BB was legitimately responsible for sinking an enemy ship in WWII. More often, they were credited with helping to sink an already damaged and abandoned allied ship.
What occasions? In WW2, the only direct, decisive battleship-vs-battleship fight I know of was Washington vs Kirishima. That was a night night battle, too.
There's Bismark vs Hood, although Hood was a battlecruiser.

At Surigao Strait, part of the larger battle of Leyte Gulf, Oldendorf's force led by the West Virginia, Maryland, Mississippi, Tennessee, California, and Pennsylvania sank the Japanese battleships Fuso and Yamashiro, although Fuso was sunk by a torpedo from the USS Melvin.

The IJN battleship Hiei was crippled by gunfire off in the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal before being finished off by aircraft, but it was cruiser fire.
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I setup a "TheGunCounter" channel. Ill try to get invites to everyone on it so we can meet up in game. Im the slowpoke who is only up to tier 3 cruisers and destroyers on both sides.

Anyone running a carrier yet?
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Bonus code "ALBANY" active today for a free ship!!!

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Jericho941 wrote:
mekender wrote:Keep in mind that real BBs had multiple occasions where hundreds and hundreds of shells were fired without a hit... I think there are what, 2 or 3 actual cases where a BB was legitimately responsible for sinking an enemy ship in WWII. More often, they were credited with helping to sink an already damaged and abandoned allied ship.
What occasions? In WW2, the only direct, decisive battleship-vs-battleship fight I know of was Washington vs Kirishima. That was a night night battle, too.
I don't play computer games, but since you asked.

WWII Battleship on Battleship engagements:

1 Battle of Mers-el-Kébir (uneven as the Vichy were at anchor)
2 Battle of Calabria (Italian vs Brits)
3 Battle of Dakar (Vichy vs Brits again)
4 Battle of the Denmark Strait (Bismark and Hipper vs Prince of Wales and Hood)
5 Bismark sinking (Bismark vs George V, Rodney, et al)
6 2nd Battle of Guadalcanal (Battleships available on both sides but no direct surface action between them, lots of BB vs cruiser action)
7 Battle of the North Cape (Scharnhorst is sunk by Duke of York)
8 Battle of Surigao Strait (Japanese force with battleships Yamashiro and Fusō and 3 heavy cruiser sunk by Oldendorf's 6 battleship force - all of which were Pearl Harbor survivors)
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mekender wrote:Bonus code "ALBANY" active today for a free ship!!!

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The funny thing about dreadnought and later battleships is that they were improvements on ships of the line, except we stopped fighting that way.

Sort of a stop-gap between that and aircraft and missile combat.

So they got developed and left behind really fast.

To top it all off, everyone figured out to just not really fight the things straight up, which is all they can do.
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