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Denis wrote:
I bought a second-hand G19 last week for the gun club, for a song, with the club's money (no way I'd spend my own money on a Glock...). It was a little-used police trade-in, and looked like new. It must have been little used, since the springs in both magazines were in upside-down, and it wouldn't feed a single round. I strongly suspect it was bought new, tested once, disassembled once, mis-assembled once and put away in a drawer.
Three cheers for police weapon maintenance skills!
I didn't think Glocks needed maintenance. I clean mine once a year, generally in June, just before quals. Shoot it for quals, reload the mags, and put it back in the holster. It stays there till next June.
Of course, being the duty gun, it's the one that gets shot (and cleaned) the least. I shoot the Vaqueros a lot more than I shoot the Glock (about 10 times as much ammo through the Vaquero than the Glock).
PawPaw wrote:I didn't think Glocks needed maintenance. I clean mine once a year, generally in June ...
I am seriously considering just disassembling it when it needs cleaning, and running it through the dishwasher...
Well, if you do, don't use Cascade dishwasher powder.
Back in the early '80s we were issued brand-new, stainless steel, Smith Model 66 revolvers. When it came time to qual, one guy showed up and his revolver wouldn't fire. When he tried to fire it, the trigger pull was horrid, something like 30-40 lbs and when the hammer fell, it was like it was in slow-motion. We popped the side plate and it was full of Cascade dishwasher powder sludge. This idiot had figured that it was stainless steel, so a trip through the dishwasher wouldn't hurt it. WRONG! That powder got into the innards and didn't get rinsed out. The entire lockwork was clogged with that sludgy crap. Great for dishes, not so good for guns.
I don't know if a Glock would survive a trip through the diswasher, but I know a SW revolver won't.
Those were great revolvers. We were still using them almost 20 years later in the Academy. Since agencies still used them, we trained with those and Smith 9s.
There must be an end to this intimidation by those who come to this great country, but reject its culture.
PawPaw wrote:I didn't think Glocks needed maintenance. I clean mine once a year, generally in June, just before quals. Shoot it for quals, reload the mags, and put it back in the holster. It stays there till next June.
I think I've mentioned this here before. Back in the 80's, I shot at a weekly combat pistol program. One of the regulars was a Maritime Patrol officer that was testing the (then) new Glock 17 for performance and durability in a salt water environment to see if his department should adopt it as a carry weapon.
He'd shoot a 100 or so rounds ever Sunday, swab the barrel out, load with duty rounds and then carry it the rest of the week (which included regular soaking with salt water spray), plus whatever range time he could get during the week. No other maintenance. (I think swabbing the barrel had more to do with being able to show he had not fired if required after any potential duty incidents than maintenance).
At about 1,500 rounds (IIRC) he started to get FTEs. Turns out the extractor was shaving a very tiny (dust sized) pieces of brass. They had built up in the recoil spring. He only had to field strip it, blow the brass dust out of the recoil spring assembly, and he was good to go.
...even before I read MHI, my response to seeing a poster for the stars of the latest Twilight movies was "I see 2 targets and a collaborator".
PawPaw wrote:Back in the early '80s we were issued brand-new, stainless steel, Smith Model 66 revolvers ...
I don't know if a Glock would survive a trip through the diswasher, but I know a SW revolver won't.
My first centrefire revolver was (and still is) a Brussels police trade-in S&W Model 64 - the .38spl +p brother of your Model 66. I think I paid 100 euro (about US$110 - goodness! what happened to the exchange rate while I wasn't looking?) for it about 12 years ago. It's a great piece, but I never tried it in the dishwasher!
Pretty good article, but even then they got some of it wrong. A purchaser is NOT required to give a Social Security number or a UPIN. That might or might not result in a delay or denial, but in the vast majority of cases it does neither. Again, they are NOT required.
