400,000 Ohio/Michigan residents without water

[slowpoke]

They fail, that epa paper says chlorine, UV, activated charcoal all are effective. Sounds to me like they're being too fricken cheep to fix their process to make clean water.

[HTRN]

From the NIH:

Carbon filters successfully removed microcystin-LR allowing only 0.05-0.3% of the toxin load to pass through the filter.

[Netpackrat]

Copied over from where I posted this by mistake in the Ebola thread:

Would something like this be helpful?

http://waterdistillers.com/fire-water-distiller/

Seems like the expensive water filter I bought appears to be less useful all the time.

[Aesop]

You're missing the point: yeah, the filters would work.
Just like on an NBC gas mask - right up until they fail. Bummer for you if it's in the middle of a cloud of VX, but hey, shit happens, right?

If you have, in your broom closet, the scientific testing lab to notify you when your activated charcoal filter has started to fail, you'll be 1:300,000,000. If there are even that many Americans so equipped.

And if you don't have the means to test your filter's output, and plenty of spare filters as needed to change out, you'll start dumping the exact same poison you were trying to screen into your dinner glass and cooking pot, and killing your liver once that filter fails.

If anyone in Ohio/Michigan wants to go that route, ROWYBS.
There are only 16,000 people waiting for a transplant now.

They fail, that epa paper says chlorine, UV, activated charcoal all are effective. Sounds to me like they're being too fricken cheep to fix their process to make clean water.

Okay. So, how much water are you willing to buy at $5/glass?

Seems like the expensive water filter I bought appears to be less useful all the time.

Only for the by-products of a blue-green algae bloom. For garden-variety filtration against cryptosporidium and coliform bacteria, you should be way ahead of the pack.

[Jericho941]

You're missing the point: yeah, the filters would work.
Just like on an NBC gas mask - right up until they fail. Bummer for you if it's in the middle of a cloud of VX, but hey, shit happens, right?

Filter failure in that case is less of an issue than other weak points in the suit. I know I've ranted about the whole "gloves pop out of sleeve" problem before, but given that a droplet of VX the size of a pencil dot is enough to kill on skin contact, I think it's a worthwhile complaint. :jacked:

[slowpoke]

You're missing the point: yeah, the filters would work.
Just like on an NBC gas mask - right up until they fail. Bummer for you if it's in the middle of a cloud of VX, but hey, shit happens, right?

If you have, in your broom closet, the scientific testing lab to notify you when your activated charcoal filter has started to fail, you'll be 1:300,000,000. If there are even that many Americans so equipped.

They fail, that epa paper says chlorine, UV, activated charcoal all are effective. Sounds to me like they're being too fricken cheep to fix their process to make clean water.

Okay. So, how much water are you willing to buy at $5/glass?
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treatment plants already buys the chemicals to adjust ph, chlorinate, reduce turbidity, etc, and test the water. There are several ways they could treat this, and they can run the test on the end to verify level.
these arent expensive chemicals were talking about either, nd they already have the economies of scale for the purchases. These types of issues are commonly fixed at water plants that use rivers for sources here in the south and we dont pay $5 a glass for tap water either. This really sounds like penny pinching or incompetence.

[BDK]

Hmm... Sounds about like some of the other chemicals I worked with in school... I thought VX was deadlier than that, for some reason...

I guess, if you want really nasty, go with a biological... (Or, we dealt w. nastier stuff than I really thought of...)

[Netpackrat]

So, I was taught in high school chemistry class that one should not drink distilled water, because it is "grabby" and will remove things that your body needs as it makes its way through you. Is this only a concern when drinking some massive quantity of the stuff, is there something that should be mixed with it after distillation to prevent that, or is it just not something to worry about in general?

Seems like I may have brought this up here in the past, but I don't remember what the answer was.

[BDK]

That's correct. TMK, its not critical, but your water source is a major/maybe the primary means your body has of getting minerals.

[HTRN]

I think that's RO water, not distilled.