Arizona Trucker 1, NY Rapper 0

[Precision]

sue away asshole.

you bought a ticket to the show (ran your mouth and threw the first punch).

He performed as your ticket required. He even stopped when you were no longer able to resist. His buddy even helped you out by making sure he didn't take you completely apart.

Your suit will only result in a costly counter suit and additional exposure to your stupidity as well as your bark being much bigger than your bite.

Or another way, your "black privilege" was called into question and found to be lacking.

[Highspeed]

I watched this again a couple of times and our Freekie friend got the beginning of the fight sort of half right.

If you look carefully he feints a wild right hook and lands a left jab to the truckers jaw, which made him stagger a little bit. That's not a bad punch at all. Mr Trucker shrugs it off of course, Freekie can't follow up and that's the end of that.

Maybe he has learned from it ? if he's admitted publicly that he was in the wrong then that was a brave step given the world he lives ( or claims to live ) in.

[JAG2955]

A good man would have stopped once he had him soundly beaten. I'm just an okay man, so I'd be sorely tempted to apply a blood choke for a few seconds so he could see his life flash before his eyes and possibly rethink some of his decisions. If I knew for certain that I could give him just a tiny bit of brain damage, I might hold it a few seconds longer.

[Highspeed]

Worst ass-whipping I ever got in my life, I had to run the guy down to get it.

Educational, it was.

The worst I got was at the age of about 17. A rival 'gang' ( not gangs as in the 'Crips' and 'Bloods' sense, just young blokes who like fighting, we called them 'firms' or 'crews' ) came to our town and picked a fight in the pub I was in.
They were going after some older guys in their 30's and 40's who were our towns best streetfighters.
I'd only thrown a couple of punches when I got hit over the head with a baseball bat and then kicked into the middle of the street. Finally one of them booted me in the throat while I was on my hands and knees, I couldn't breathe and thought I was going to die.

Every kicking I've had after that has been sort of an anti-climax. It helped me in another way, one of our villages top streetfighters made it a point to shake my hand in the pub the next time I saw him and thank me for getting stuck in to help them. That sort of smooths your path through life. Or at least the sort of life I was living at the time...

The top guys in the gang who gave me the kicking were a couple of fearsome characters, one did a long stretch in jail for braining someone with an axe and the other ended up running a gym for steroid monsters and controlled half the nightclubs in his area by supplying bouncers\protection. Drugs got both of them in the end, steroids and amphetamines killed them before they were 40.

Now I've written that I'm not sure what the moral of the tale is. Don't take steroids and amphetamines and don't get kicked in the throat ?

I think the worst thing you can do in a fight is to be too angry. A pigeon racing guy who lived near us had been poisoning our cats and we finally found out it was him some months previously. Our marriage wasn't going too well at the time and we were seperated mainly because of me being violent, unpredictable and involved in criminal activity.
I had decided that I wasn't going to do what I would have liked to do to the cat poisoner because I wanted to save our relationship. But....shit happens
Our cat had contracted flu just before she gave birth to a litter of kittens. She rejected them and I was bottle feeding them while trying to hold down an honest job as an engine builder. I got no sleep for at least a week before the last kitten died.
Then I went to the local biker pub with a couple of friends and got chased by the cops on my bike on the way home.
So I go to my local pub to try and wind down, the first guy I meet is the cat poisoner and all his friends.
I followed him into the toilets and just punched his lights out in a blind rage.
That was good, but he was a very, very big guy and the fat fucker fell on me and pinned me to the floor. I have two kinds of luck - bad and none
He woke up before I could crawl out from under him and gave me enough digs that we were both staggering when we got up. I knew I was going to have to fight all his friends afterwards, or at least I thought I did. So I just went defensive.
It's instructional who your friends REALLY are once blood is spilled. An older friend of mine who liked to claim he was ex-Hells Angels did nothing at this point. I knew he had hung around the club back in the day and kind of admired him for that. But when his chance came to actually do something he lost his courage, the fucking pussy.
I did stand my ground and while I'm sure the cat poisoners friends would have liked to have kicked the fuck out of me none of them wanted to go first.
The moral of the tale is that I was stupid. I was half psychotic from lack of sleep and it clouded my judgement.
At the time I was in the best shape of my life, I had finished up a long stretch of weight training, cut all the surplus fat off and had gotten into Muay Thai. Not that modern " Thai style boxercise " but a fight club thing we had going. I felt like I was a human lightning bolt looking for something to zap.
I could have just elbowed and kneed the cat poisoner into oblivion outside the pub, picked him off at my leisure, but I was consumed by rage.

Still, he got a bad hand dealt to him by karma after that...it involved fire

[skb12172]

It's instructional who your friends REALLY are once blood is spilled.

Good life advice, right there.

[308Mike]

A good man would have stopped once he had him soundly beaten. I'm just an okay man, so I'd be sorely tempted to apply a blood choke for a few seconds so he could see his life flash before his eyes and possibly rethink some of his decisions. If I knew for certain that I could give him just a tiny bit of brain damage, I might hold it a few seconds longer.

Choking someone one out to the point they are OUT, frequently is enough to make them piss or shit their pants if they need to go but present circumstances dictate they not head off to the restroom right now (if their body is saying "WE NEED TO GO"), and adrenaline is making its presence known and your bladder and bowels shut down, so you no longer feel the need to use the head (when you REALLY should), so you EGO is now dictating how you respond, along with those other bodily functions just standing by until they get released (YES, I've had quite a few suspects either shit or piss themselves when choked out).

When done CORRECTLY, choking someone out usually takes less than 10 seconds (even with a long-sleeved shirt - BUT NOT WEARING A TUFFY JACKET)!! I've choked people out in only a few seconds, and the ONE TIME I did it while wearing a Tuffy jacket, it took almost a FULL MINUTE (on the steps of the Sports Arena while people started throwing bottles and rocks at us - and my arm was sore for a WEEK from all the effort to just get him to stop fighting us) to FINALLY make him limp enough to cuff him without having to fight him (all the while his girlfriend is SCREAMING: "THEY'RE KILLING HIM!!!!!" - just after we pulled HIM OFF OF HER, and HE WAS BEATING HER, and he was REALLY trying to hurt her)!!

The less clothes people (AND YOU) are wearing, the EASIER it is to choke them out. That is, unless you can also use their clothes to help choke them out as performed in Judo (where the Gi is also used to assist in choking them out).

Choking people out has a variety or responses, and you need to be careful any time you do it, to ensure you do it RIGHT and NOT create any damage by having the choke misplaced and damaging or bruising the Trachea (if you do, the choke wasn't properly applied - UNLESS the choke was designed to inhibit airflow to the lungs, rather than just impede the blood flow to the brain, causing them to become unconscious). Such a Trachea choke might be considered LETHAL FORCE, when a Carotid Choke might not (based upon the PROPER APPLICATIONS of the chokes involved).

PERSONALLY, depending on the situation, and if my life was being threatened, I would go with whatever tools I might have at hand, and apply them in ANY FASHION I can to eliminate the threat and stop the attack!!! I'd MUCH RATHER be tried by 12, than CARRIED BY 6!!!! If you attack me or my wife, you might be going home in a pine box - but all that depends on YOU (NOT ME)!!! We cherish life, but if you attack us or try to rob us, you'll quickly discover you should have been elsewhere!!

YMMV!!!

[Aesop]

A good man would have stopped once he had him soundly beaten. I'm just an okay man, so I'd be sorely tempted to apply a blood choke for a few seconds so he could see his life flash before his eyes and possibly rethink some of his decisions. If I knew for certain that I could give him just a tiny bit of brain damage, I might hold it a few seconds longer.

As I re-watch the video, this one question in the back of my mind pushes to the front of the pack:
"How would one determine 'a tiny bit' of brain damage (or hell, anything short of permanent coma) given the baseline intelligence level demonstrated by this horse's ass?"

Just saying.

Clownboy apparently has only one intelligence level.
But the smackdown does seem to have addressed his personal volume knob to the "mute" setting.
And he's been lawfully subdued and is no longer a danger to self or others.

Kinda wish this guy had been a trucker.
It would have been funny to see him take the guy and attach him to a lightpole, once he was in the drone zone, with duct tape and metal pallet banding tape.
Then call 911 as he was driving away to report the location of the package.

[skb12172]

He wasn't a trucker? That's what the title said and I assumed it was correct.

[MarkD]

Question for folks with more street-fighting experience than I have: Isn't hitting someone in the back of the head with your fists a good way to hurt yourself? Skulls are much harder than hands.

In my limited experience the guys you have to watch out for as far as them starting a fight with you are the ones bent on impressing a female of the species. Apparently the prospect of a bj does strange things to a man's common sense (especially if he's been drinking). I had three muscleheads come after me one time for "Talking about the (New York) Yankees", it seems a girl overheard me busting a friend's chops, he's a Yankees fan and I'm a Mets fan, and I was teasing him about a recent loss just like he'd do to me. She took offense and these three idiots decided to give me a hard time. When I stood up and picked up my barstool they decided they weren't likely to get laid if they were in the hospital.

In my case, I'm too old and out-of-shape to trade punches with someone. I'll just make sure they put me in a position where I can reasonably claim fear for my life or of serious harm, then hit them with whatever's handy.

[Rusty Ray]

I'm a small guy, and as such am used to pyrrhic victories. If I win a fight, usually it has cost me. So I rarely throw the first punch and would rather shout, argue and try to threaten my way out of it. Unless I am very angry, those seconds before a fight are totally horrible. Adrenalin is nearly forcing me to run, and I would rather be anywhere else in the world but right there. But when that first punch goes in, it changes. After that initial 'Donk' sound has echoed around your head and the world didn't end, I am all right and stand by you fucker, 'cos we're off!

So if that rapper a) threatened me with violence, b) threatened me with sexual violence (not the most manly thing I have ever seen), and c) twatted me when I was trying to be the smarter of the two and walk away, I would have launched the c##t. I would not have been on top of him as long as the white guy was, and I think the black fella got off lightly. My MO is to soften you up, then get back on my feet. If he had moved so much as a finger after that, I would have put in a conversion on his head. It is that fucking simple, seriously: Don't swing at me, even if you do come from New York (and what the fuck is that about???).

Re: Punching the back of the head. Any port in a storm will do when you are in that position. But, I think the trucker was after getting the guy in the side of the head. Never underestimate the value of a good blow to the temple.

Cheers- Rusty (not from New York)