John Ringo... Posleen ASC??!!??

[Greg]

I was really hoping someone else would get the Space Pope gag. Glad ya'll pulled through.

Yes, I watch Futurama..

And hypnotoad is actually a higher caste Himmit.

[HTRN]

All glory to the hypnotoad!

[Greg]

Yeah, Kratman does tend to humanize his bad guys. Makes his stuff interesting, even if the humanized bad guys are still pieces of shit. Certain characters in his Carrera books make my skin crawl, since I've met people like that before in the flesh.

His M-Day series is allota fun.

In this case, the point is that these aren't bad guys. Or they may be by circumstance, but circumstances can change, or *be* changed.

Kratman's got a lot of rehabilitation to do after what was presented in the first few books, though.

Ooh, a self-followup. Uh, oh.

I've been thinking about this, and I've maybe seen a new parallel of who the Posleen might 'represent'. (Not going to say who.)

Now think of a group that spent too much time under the influence and control of Progressives, such that their institutions were weakened or destroyed, they'd lost the ability to effectively self-govern or self-regulate, and a great mass of unstoppable uncontrollable stupids was effectively in charge.

Who does that sound like?

[Cobar]

Now think of a group that spent too much time under the influence and control of Progressives, such that their institutions were weakened or destroyed, they'd lost the ability to effectively self-govern or self-regulate, and a great mass of unstoppable uncontrollable stupids was effectively in charge.

Who does that sound like?

Humans?

[Greg]

Now think of a group that spent too much time under the influence and control of Progressives, such that their institutions were weakened or destroyed, they'd lost the ability to effectively self-govern or self-regulate, and a great mass of unstoppable uncontrollable stupids was effectively in charge.

Who does that sound like?

Humans?

Some rather more than others.

[Jered]

Remember... Krarman titled his first major book after "Die Wacht Am Rhein" for several reasons. He likes tweaking expectations, and pissing off liberals and people with no sense of humor who take themselves way too seriously.

...but I repeat myself.

Didn't Kratman write A State of Disobedience before that one?

[Greg]

Remember... Krarman titled his first major book after "Die Wacht Am Rhein" for several reasons. He likes tweaking expectations, and pissing off liberals and people with no sense of humor who take themselves way too seriously.

...but I repeat myself.

Didn't Kratman write A State of Disobedience before that one?

IIRC, the first thing he wrote was reams of material that eventually got reworked into ADCP. More a personal obsession than anything else.

Again IIRC, ASoD was written on contract on an idea from Jim Baen... one of those 'you want to work for me? Write me something like <this>' deals. Wouldn't call it a major novel and Kratman doesn't seem to think much of it.

Rhein might indeed qualify as first major novel, hard to say.