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Politics is downstream of culture

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Andrew Klavan on why the arts matter, why the Left is in control, and how conservatives can get back in the game.

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Andrew Klavan wrote:No one expects conservatives or anyone else to patronize works of art they don’t enjoy or that offend their sensibilities, but you can’t win a fight by ceding the field. Conservative cultural ostriches are essentially abandoning those contemporary artists who might, at least in part, agree with them. With no audience to support them, creators with conservative, patriotic, religious or libertarian views are left to the mercy of dishonest and calculated attacks by the powerful leftist reviewers in the so-called “mainstream” venues. Their works are judged by the very people who have labored for the last sixty years to insure a virtual left wing monopoly over Hollywood, the publishing industry and other distributors of artistic content.

The simple fact is: You can’t tell the arts to get off your lawn. They aren’t going anywhere. They will continue to create the attitudes of the future — the conscience of the American race — while you hide your eyes in a self-righteous huff.
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At the movies — in the arts — conservative reality almost always comes disguised as fantasy whereas leftist fantasy comes disguised as reality!
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This freedom to rewrite history in novels, movies and television shows while critics aid and abet the distortion of the truth — this left wing monopoly over not only the arts but the critical infrastructure that supports the arts — this is not the left’s fault. They are only doing what leftists traditionally do: creating narratives to replace the facts and browbeating and blacklisting the opposition into silence.

No, this situation is the right’s fault, our fault. We have allowed it to happen.
A great essay read here
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Alas, I have no access to all the GOP campaign funds to buy myself a Hollywood studio, buy the rights to Firefly, and get Serenity back up and running as a sci-fi show arguing against Big Government and all its intrusions.

It'd also be nifty to see a behind-the-scenes film on Hollywood and its foibles. Get a picture showing the real history behind the blacklist, including all those in Hollywood who really were Communism's useful idiots.
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Fortunately, with current technology, this is a feature film-making company, and this is a Hollywood studio.

But when it comes to acquiring rights to successful shows, you're on your own.

The behind-the-scenes isn't simply worse than you imagine, it's worse than you can imagine.
The only good side is that the blacklist was transparently a flop, but the useful idiots self-identify in a niche of society where living your life on your front lawn and the front page of everything is a feature, and not a bug.
Thus you already know who the useful idiots are as soon as you turn on the TV each day, because they can't shut up to save their lives.
And that last is where life is going to imitate art, come the day.
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Alas, the useful idiots have not been excoriated enough for my tastes. When Jane Fonda and Charlie Chaplin are spoken of in the same tones as Benedict Arnold and Charles Manson, then I'll be happy.

And yes, you can make a film in your house, but getting it distributed to a wider audience is key.
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The behind-the-scenes isn't simply worse than you imagine, it's worse than you can imagine.
Which is why it's a story that needs to be told. :twisted:
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dfwmtx wrote:And yes, you can make a film in your house, but getting it distributed to a wider audience is key.
That's not particularly difficult either.
For instance...

But if you crack the riddle of how to actually get paid for your trouble, you'll be the next Mark Zuckerberg, or the next letter in SKG.

And behind-the-scenes Hollywood wouldn't play, because no one would believe it, and documentaries have to sound real, not like The Adventures Of Baron Munchausen, Part II. :(


Jericho941 wrote:...Charlie Chaplin?
This is news to you?
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The problem is if all they're going to make is another Fireproof or a movie about Jesus, then there's no point.

There is a follow-up article on PJMedia which was a reply to Klavan's article that discussed that Conservatives aren't doing what the Left does and building in their ideas subversively and innovatively, nor to they seem to be interested in doing anything but boycotting, while at the same time not getting off their asses to put out the kind of material that the Left has been so successful with.

What it seems to boil down to, and I get this impression the more and more time passes, is that Conservatives are weak and lazy. They'd rather retreat from society like the Amish than engage in trying to winning it back. They seem to use the old excuse of "the game's rigged" as their way out. It's essentially the "Inequality" argument in its opposite form, but without the effort to do anything about it.
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They'd rather retreat from society like the Amish than engage in trying to winning it back

Sorta like conservatives in general, ya mean? Anyone planning a move to a red state?
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blackeagle603 wrote:
They'd rather retreat from society like the Amish than engage in trying to winning it back

Sorta like conservatives in general, ya mean? Anyone planning a move to a red state?
I'm sure every red state has its own internal population of blues you can work on, if that's what floats your boat- you can move to a blue island and work to make sure it doesn't metastasize. And anyone who moves to a red state will still have no shortage of blue friends and family he can work to convert.

You don't have to be seeking martyrdom at all times. Giving your children a better life is nice, too. There's also something to be said for starving the beast, voting with your wallet and feet, etc etc etc But we've had this discussion.
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