Anyone Have Any Good Survival Retreat Ideas

[henrybowman]

I have an idea

I would put a Belt Fed semi auto on this platform
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxBa5bQfTGc

The Ultimate Retreat Protection Idea

It would be a ring of in-ground sprinklers in a large circle about 200 to 300 feet in diameter with the house(that would be made of masonry as it should be because they are not flammable) and outlying buildings garden ect inside the ring.

It would also include any road leading up to the house.

If and when a large horde of looters come and "demand their fair share" you would activate the system the sprinklers would come out of the ground and instead of water they would be switched over to a tank of high octane gasoline(or Bio Diesel or Alcohol based fuel) and they would spray a massive spray/cloud of flammable liquid in the kill zone/road way where the looters would be.

Then after 5 to 15 seconds the sprinklers(which would be made our of steel or bronze or some metal that would not be effected by the heat or chemical effects of what ever was being used for the defense system) would shut down and drop below the ground.

After a few tracer rounds or a 37mm Flare it would be a hellish inferno that would take out all if not most of the looters and their vehicles.


I call it "The Ring Of Fire" a defense system of Fort Kickass.

So what is your take on this idea?


What that be legal..

What are your idea..

My goal is to brain storm new ideas not break the rules..

[Aesop]

Uh huh.

And then, somebody who graduated 4th grade with honors would put a sheet of AR-500, or any number of layers of other steel sufficient to stop your round(s), onto a refrigerator dolly, walk straight towards it, tip it over onto the gun, and then they have a machinegun, Ho! Ho! Ho!

A ring of them gets the OpFor to deploy a plate on a stick in front of each one, and they wave them from cover until your ammo pigs run out of bullets. Then they all walk up and slit your throat.

And just to pile on, your sentry gun, not being able to tell friend from foe, because no workable IFF system, mows down friendlies trying to contact you.
Their friends come, use either of the above strategies, and then get some pliers and blowtorches and get medieval on your ass.

Not to mention, when the enemy isn't shooting paintballs back at you, having them drop a mortar round or an RPG on it kind of f**** up that laptop, and it's game over.

Cleverly, the engineers who test this stuff on serious Big Boy Toys always neglect to send the cabled MMG robot crawler into a house where the opponent has such high tech defenses as an axe and a furniture pad, because having some troglodyte drop the furnie pad over your remote death robot's camera, hack the control cable or chop the receiver, and then pry the FN MAG loose and turn it on the engineers isn't funny when the VIPs are watching.

Point being, knowing when to shoot, and when not to, is worth a lot more than just shooting anything that moves, as 100 hunting accidents a year prove again and again.

And as long as the current system is in place, that qualifies as a boobytrap (i.e. automatic indiscriminate maiming device) which is probably a felony in all 57 states, either explicitly, or under various gross negligence criminal statutes. After that, the only guns you see are the ones in the guard towers at the Graybar Inn.

But it looks like fun to use on the neighbor's cats with airsoft or paintballs.

[henrybowman]

Uh huh.

And then, somebody who graduated 4th grade with honors would put a sheet of AR-500, or any number of layers of other steel sufficient to stop your round(s), onto a refrigerator dolly, walk straight towards it, tip it over onto the gun, and then they have a machinegun, Ho! Ho! Ho!

A ring of them gets the OpFor to deploy a plate on a stick in front of each one, and they wave them from cover until your ammo pigs run out of bullets. Then they all walk up and slit your throat.

And just to pile on, your sentry gun, not being able to tell friend from foe, because no workable IFF system, mows down friendlies trying to contact you.
Their friends come, use either of the above strategies, and then get some pliers and blowtorches and get medieval on your ass.

Not to mention, when the enemy isn't shooting paintballs back at you, having them drop a mortar round or an RPG on it kind of f**** up that laptop, and it's game over.

Cleverly, the engineers who test this stuff on serious Big Boy Toys always neglect to send the cabled MMG robot crawler into a house where the opponent has such high tech defenses as an axe and a furniture pad, because having some troglodyte drop the furnie pad over your remote death robot's camera, hack the control cable or chop the receiver, and then pry the FN MAG loose and turn it on the engineers isn't funny when the VIPs are watching.

Point being, knowing when to shoot, and when not to, is worth a lot more than just shooting anything that moves, as 100 hunting accidents a year prove again and again.

And as long as the current system is in place, that qualifies as a boobytrap (i.e. automatic indiscriminate maiming device) which is probably a felony in all 57 states, either explicitly, or under various gross negligence criminal statutes. After that, the only guns you see are the ones in the guard towers at the Graybar Inn.

But it looks like fun to use on the neighbor's cats with airsoft or paintballs.

Yeah it would be assembled and active only after the balloon went up.

I would also have it be a wireless system with the weapons control system inside..

I mean these would be hidden and when need would become active, so it will be a surprise to say the very least...A nice way to say "Welcome to the party pal"


That being said, what are your ideas?

[skb12172]

If it would only be active after the balloon went up, why the concern over legality? If society has collapsed, I doubt the courts will still be functioning. I think it's a fair question.

[Steamforger]

Ringo has recently published my escape plan. Procure yacht, head to sea as north as I can stand it. Wait.

[skb12172]

Ringo has recently published my escape plan. Procure yacht, head to sea as north as I can stand it. Wait.

Also a good zombie survival plan. In Land of the Dead, they had the right idea.

[Aesop]

Ringo has recently published my escape plan. Procure yacht, head to sea as north as I can stand it. Wait.

Also a good zombie survival plan. In Land of the Dead, they had the right idea.

Two words: Zombie pirates.

[Netpackrat]

I thought the first rule of good survival retreat ideas, is you do not talk about good survival retreat ideas....

[randy]

I wonder how well someone could get to the unit using a slow crawl (I'm talking Carlos Hatchcock/VC Sapper slow here) and disable it?

[Precision]

I wonder how well someone could get to the unit using a slow crawl (I'm talking Carlos Hatchcock/VC Sapper slow here) and disable it?

send two people on different vectors. If they have 50 / 50 chances...

better though is a $100 UAV on kamikaze with a grenade and a pint of methanol