Teen accused of breaking into El Cajon home shot by homeownr

[308Mike]

Linkarooni - I SERIOUSLY doubt they're going to do ANYTHING to charge the homeowner - 'cause if they do, he has many defenses already in CA law.

In the bizarre event they might even be CONSIDERING charges indicates their absolute LACK of knowledge of CA firearms law (or is simply just an easy and cheap cop-out so they don't have to provide an answer to the press - they simply do NOT have the BALLS to say they aren't going to charge him unless new information is presented which indicates he MAY need to be charged). But then, you're dealing with the DA's office headed by Bonnie Dumanis (a major liberal), who's well known for picking and choosing their prosecutions based upon their PERCEIVED conviction rate (for re-election and NOT FOR JUSTICE REASONS):

Teen accused of breaking into El Cajon home shot by homeowner
Posted: 10/08/2013
Last Updated: 1 day ago

EL CAJON, Calif. - A homeowner shot a teenager Monday after El Cajon police say the teen broke into the man's house.

Neighbors told 10News the homeowner, who is in his 70s, was returning to his home in the 700 block of Terra Lane when he heard someone breaking in through a back bathroom window.

The homeowner grabbed a gun and confronted the teen, and during a struggle, the homeowner fired a shot, striking the teen in the leg.

10News learned the injured teen was taken to the hospital. The homeowner -- who was not injured -- was taken to the hospital for observation.

Police said the homeowner will most likely not be charged because he was protecting his home, but an investigation is ongoing.

An investigation will decide if charges are recommended to the district attorney's office.

The teen faces burglary charges, 10News learned.

[Yogimus]

"how could you kill a child over some cheap electronics?"

[g-man]

"how could you kill a child over some cheap electronics?"

Mozambique drill.

Sounds like our homeowner needs more practice...

[randy]

"how could you kill a child over some cheap electronics?"

Easy, you don't lead them as much

[blackeagle603]

Well that hits close to home. Literally.

Had someone go through a couple of our cars in the drive late at night last week. We got sloppy, didn't have them locked. Nothing damaged but got some odds and ends worth ~$200 (highend bluetooth headset, athletic bag with shoes/cardio sensor).

Be a shame if it was the same kid -- not.


Added a couple more security lights yesterday and tweaked the existing ones settings. Looking at a couple security camera ideas for monitoring through traffic on our non-county road -- build a record of vehicles passing through.

[Erik]

Looking at a couple security camera ideas for monitoring through traffic on our non-county road -- build a record of vehicles passing through.

Is that legal there? I've been thinking it would be a good thing to do here, but it's illegal. I have property that is right next to the road leading down to a lot of houses. Adding a camera here would be very useful if there's any problems in the area. But it's illegal to do, and definitely not worth the chance of someone finding out.

Someone put a geocache right on the edge of my property, and I had no idea about it until I happened to go into that site and decided to see what was in my area. Apparently it's fairly well visited, but I've never seen any signs of people hanging around there. Makes me think how easy it is to miss people looking around that close to my house...

[MarkD]

Someone put a geocache right on the edge of my property,

Personally, that geocache and everything in it would have been dumped in the nearest trash can.

I don't get the whole idea of geocaching anyway, but as long as they stick to public property I've no quarrel. Anything on my property is mine, to do with as I please.

[Yogimus]

Someone put a geocache right on the edge of my property,

Personally, that geocache and everything in it would have been dumped in the nearest trash can.

I don't get the whole idea of geocaching anyway, but as long as they stick to public property I've no quarrel. Anything on my property is mine, to do with as I please.

Replace it with a smoke grenade inside a pringles can, with the pin pulled. (or a white phosphorus nade if you feel particularly malicious)

[Aesop]

Looking at a couple security camera ideas for monitoring through traffic on our non-county road -- build a record of vehicles passing through.

Is that legal there? I've been thinking it would be a good thing to do here, but it's illegal. I have property that is right next to the road leading down to a lot of houses. Adding a camera here would be very useful if there's any problems in the area. But it's illegal to do, and definitely not worth the chance of someone finding out.

There is absolutely nothing in law nor common practice hereabouts to prohibit emplacing any number of security cameras on one's property.
The only restriction that would come anywhere close would be not pointing them into your neighbor's windows and peeping.
Public roads are entirely fair game, and private security cameras, for instance at bank ATMs, routinely capture other nearby criminal activity, including on public roads.

But wiring the feed to remotely fired rifles does fall afoul of anti-remote hunting regulations in the CA fish & game regs though. Bastards.

There's also a cure for uncomfortably close geocaches.
Move them, or remove them.

Inducing annoying animal or insect life to take up temporary residence drives the point home, and/or depositing foul-smelling items thereon is a suitable backup plan. Certain bleached bones from cattle, available unfinished from the local butcher's shop, can look amazingly like the bones of dead geocachers. Some assembly required. And after all, Halloween is coming up soon.

[Erik]

Here you cant have any camera that shows anything outside of your property, unless you have a permit for it. (Banks and some other places get permits). You are allowed to have it on your own property, as long as you warn anyone entering that you have cameras, either with a sign or by telling them. Otherwise it's considered unlawful surveillance.

Also, "property" is defined a bit differently in this case. There's a long standing law here that's called "right of public access". You can only restrict people from your house and garden, which is usually defined as "within sight and sound". So if you have a 10 acre property, people are allowed to enter it and cross it, as long as they don't damage anything and stay well away from the house.
Which is actually were some hunters have gotten in trouble, because if you put up a game cam on your own property without a permit and someone steps in front of it, you're technically breaking the law. I think they actually changed that now, so that it's allowed as long as you don't put it on a road or trail where people could be expected to hike.

I guess the geocache is a bit of a borderline case, but I doubt it's breaking the law. And I really dont care that much about it, I figure people that spend money on a gps just to go out and play treasure hunt with those things are probably not people that causes problem, and having people moving around in an area is usually a good way to keep undesirable elements away. It's been there a while, and I haven't had any problems with it, I didn't even know it was there until I found the site. I was just a bit surprised that I hadn't noticed anything, I try to keep some awareness of what's going on in the area.