Pack of bikers attack motorist

[randy]

I still find it hard to believe after watching the video that the dipstick in the SUV didn't have sense enough to lock his door after the original incident,

Is it possible that at some point he put it into park (maybe accidentally rammed past R) and the stupid things unlocked themselves.

I know that most cars today have a "safety" feature that "helpfully" unlocks the doors when you placed it in park. Took me a while, but I finally found the sequence in the owners manual of my Trailblazer to disable that BS. Can't shut it off entirely, they still lock automatically when I get up towards 10 MPH, but I was able to disable the automatic unlock, with just such a situation in mind (not necessarily an MC on the road, but unfriendly strangers close aboard when I park that want in before I've scanned the area and am ready to exit).

[rightisright]

To be clear...

THIS, is a biker:

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THIS, is a "motorcyclist" or "Rider":

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And THIS, is a douchebag squid who got hit on purpose so he could start a riot:

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Ok, so your definition of a "biker" is a criminal?

I've been around enough HAs and their 81 leg-humpers to know their true nature. Ditto for the Pagans who are prevalent around here. Their Christmas toy drives won't sway the opinion of what I have SEEN.

ETA: Reread your post and I may have misinterpreted. I've always thought of myself as a "biker" even though I never joined a "club" (what a misnomer that can be).

Tired, semi-drunk, going to bed.

[Langenator]

So there were apparently at least FIVE off-duty NYPD cops in the bike pack...and not one did anything.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ttack.html

And why is this in a Brit paper, not the NY ones?

[MarkD]

Being in the general area, I've heard a LOT about this story in the local news. There have been lots of calls for criminal charges against the SUV driver, based apparently on the fact that he owns an expensive SUV and must therefore be a criminal anyway.

The D family vehicle is a Jeep Liberty. I can tell you that after any traffic altercation, from scraped paint to blood splattered over my windshield, if the other party, or anyone affiliated with the other party, comes toward me with anything in his/her hands other than license/registration/insurance card I'm unassing the area, so it behooves folks not to stand in front of or behind my vehicle. I have four wheel drive, you won't be slippery enough to keep me from leaving.

I see FB posts all the time about watching out for motorcycles on the road. Fine, I'll drive safety around you, you do the same. Quit lane-splitting, quit zooming from right lane to left lane thru my (middle) lane, passing within a foot of my front bumper (seen on the Garden State Parkway LOTS of times), quit tailgating me (hint, if I can't see your headlight in my rear-view you're TOO CLOSE). In short, stop acting like you're trying to become an organ donor, and if/when Darwin catches up to you quit acting like it's the "cage-driver's) fault.

[MarkD]

So there were apparently at least FIVE off-duty NYPD cops in the bike pack...and not one did anything.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ttack.html

And why is this in a Brit paper, not the NY ones?

Because NYPD doesn't keep criminals away from British newspapers, or stop doing so selectively.

[mekender]

Looks like at least one cop was involved

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/und ... -1.1479369

[Aesop]

Looks like at least one cop was involved

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/und ... -1.1479369

Perfect.
Now Ms. Allred has carte blanche to "sue the pigs"* for instigating, and win, while the Lien family just got a new SUV, all their hospitals bills paid, and a healthy cash reward, courtesy of the deep-pocketed citizens of NYFC. I'm thinking it would have been far cheaper to just break up the incident on the spot.

If police departments had a $1M deductible that came not from the self-insured municipalities, but instead solely charged equally to the officer(s) involved and the chief, this crapola would cease nationwide in 1 lawsuit. Cops and chiefs who suddenly had to live in their cars or at the local homeless shelter for a few years would see the fun of being a paid asstard go kind of flat.










*(It's a term I'd rarely if ever use, but when one's UC helps instigate a riot, then lies about it, then coughs it up after video proves he lied in official statements, he pretty much owns that snout. If you're a current or former LEO with a problem about that characterization, I urge you to get over it.)

[308Mike]

And now the OFF-DUTY NYFC officer has been ARRESTED (perhaps FACTS *MAY* follow):

Undercover cop arrested in NYC biker gang attack
Published October 09, 2013 | Associated Press

An undercover detective who investigators said was off duty when he was recorded on video pounding on an SUV as a biker rally spiraled into violence was arrested late Tuesday.

Wojciech Braszczok surrendered to face riot and criminal mischief charges, New York Police Department spokesman John McCarthy said.

Braszczok was expected to make a court appearance Wednesday. There was no response to phone messages left with his attorney.

The attorney, Phil Karasyk, had said Monday that the detective, a 10-year veteran of the police force, had only witnessed other bikers attacking the vehicle. But investigators discovered video evidence showing him punching an already damaged back window, then twice kicking the side of the SUV before leaving the scene, according to two people familiar with the case. The people weren't authorized to discuss the inquiry and spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity.

The arrest added to the complexities of the Sept. 29 episode, which authorities say began with a reckless motorcycle group ride on a Manhattan highway and ended with one motorcyclist run over and the driver dragged from his SUV and beaten on a street.

Six people have been arrested. Four bikers have been criminally charged.

On Tuesday night, police arrested Clint Caldwell on gang assault and other charges. It was unclear if he had a lawyer, and there was no phone listed for him at his Brooklyn address.

The Manhattan district attorney's office said prosecutors and police were "methodically scrutinizing the evidence to build the strongest possible cases."

NYPD internal affairs investigators had initially been looking into the undercover detective's conduct because he didn't report until three days later that he had been at the rally. The expectation that police officers will act if they see crimes isn't the same for undercover officers.

The encounter, captured partly on a helmet-mounted video that was posted online, began when about two dozen riders slowed down, swarming the Range Rover after it bumped a biker on the West Side Highway. Some riders dismounted and approached the SUV, and police said some bikers began damaging it.

The SUV's driver, Alexian Lien, took off, running over motorcyclist Edwin "Jay" Mieses Jr., who's from Lawrence, Mass. The impact broke Mieses' legs and caused spinal injuries that may leave him paralyzed.

Lien's wife has said he feared for their lives and the safety of their 2-year-old daughter and had no choice but to flee; Lien hasn't been charged with any crime.

The bikers pursued the SUV, which exited the highway and got stuck in street traffic. One biker used his helmet to shatter the driver's window, and others pulled Lien out and beat and kicked him, police and prosecutors said. Lien needed stitches.

One motorcyclist charged in the case, Craig Wright, punched Lien through the broken window and joined in stomping him on the street, prosecutors said.

Wright's lawyer, Mitchell Elman, cautioned against any "rush to judgment" in the highly scrutinized case and said Wright has "every right to fight these charges."

According to the undercover detective's account, he saw motorcyclists attacking the SUV but didn't see anyone harm Lien, Karasyk said Monday. The detective also didn't see the SUV hit Mieses, the attorney said.

Carrying no badge or gun, and aware of cases in which officers had been suspended or dismissed for blowing their covers, "he had no other option, so he drove away," said Karasyk, who works with the detectives' union.

[Aglifter]

If his description of what he saw, etc is correct, then I agree w. CBIV - just denting up a car, et seems like a tolerable thing to trade for maintaining cover.

OTH, I could see some talk about letting things get out of hand, etc - and I don't understand why uniform cops didn't swarm on them to stop this - given NYC's "occupied" status, this seems difficult to believe.

The UC might be getting thrown to the press to distract from why they didn't respond to the 911 calls...

The NY daily news article might imply something more to the UC's behavior - he lost his union lawyer, and is claimed to have lied to his superiors about what he did, so...

[TheIrishman]

I have talked to a lot of Yankees around here in the Carloinas that say that bugs the hell out of them.

Now, I lived in TN for 2 years(just outside Nashville, not the nicest neighborhood at the time...comparable to Newark in the same period) from '95-'97.
I found the slower pace enjoyable.
Hell, I still tell my waitresses to take their time and that I am not in a rush.

Ok, so your definition of a "biker" is a criminal?
I've been around enough HAs and their 81 leg-humpers to know their true nature

More than likely he just pulled a picture off of the net.

I know H.O.G. members who look like that and own dental practices.

And for the record, I'd rather ride with HA's/Pagans/Chingalings/Dego Mob/Hoboken MC/what ever big bad outlaw biker crew you can name, than with the jackasses in those videos. They're nothing more than a bunch of fucking squids riding through sidewalk cafes and stunting on public roads like baboons showing their asses. They give every one else on 2 wheels a bad name.