CByrneIV wrote:I think any gun measured in naval caliber vs. small arms caliber (i.e. the Iowa class main guns are 16"/50 caliber, meaning 800" long) should officially be regarded as "strategic" and not "tactical".
To paraphrase a line from 80's Targeting circles:
"There are no strategic or tactical weapons, there are only strategic or tactical targets".
...even before I read MHI, my response to seeing a poster for the stars of the latest Twilight movies was "I see 2 targets and a collaborator".
MarkD wrote:Now, to bring the thread full-circle, how about books and movies about people who find themselves by being encased in a hollowed-out 16 inch shell and being fired from one of the Iowa's main guns?????
I have asked my wife that upon my death, to contact the Dept. of the Navy to have some of my ashes inserted into the warhead of a live Tomahawk Land Attack Missile (TLAM), based on the work I did with them in the late 80's.
However, if they were brought back into service and used to shell enemies of the US, and being from Iowa, I could be down with a ride in a 16" round.
...even before I read MHI, my response to seeing a poster for the stars of the latest Twilight movies was "I see 2 targets and a collaborator".
And how about a codocil that stipulated the ashes be encased in a matrix of rendered pig and cow fat and whale blubber?
That covers offending kosher, halal, the Hindus, vegans, and the animal rights whacktards.
With perhaps a whiff of pressurized H2SO4 and butyric acid as a burster charge, to give those earthly remains that piquant fart-like lingering aftersmell.
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esa5444 wrote:
Oh, since it's my idea, I hereby ordain the following rule. Anyone caught trying to make the 16" guns more tactical will be forced to walk the plank. You can paint the AAA guns black and mount all the rails, lights, and red-dots on them you want, but the big guns stay original.
I think any gun measured in naval caliber vs. small arms caliber (i.e. the Iowa class main guns are 16" 50 caliber, meaning 800" long) should officially be regarded as "strategic" and not "tactical".
I disagree. The Iowa main guns are the ideal weapon to use for that most tactical of applications, house clearing. Kicking in a door while wearing body armor and all the other gear is a great way to end up with sore muscles and sprained joints, not to mention arthritis later in life. Detonating cord, I have learned, stinks after you set it off and the soot is hard to wash out of your clothes. I ruined my favorite white shirt-sleeve; there is a big black streak across it that is impervious to all known detergents and bleaches. Launching a 2000 lbs projectile from 25 miles away that clears the building, and every building within a 200 yard radius, that's the way to do it. No sore muscles, no ruined shirts, minimal chance of being shot, and almost near certainty that the commie terrorists hiding in the building are no longer a cause for concern.
Not so good for hostage rescue ops, though...
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HTRN wrote:Gives new meaning to the phrase "there goes the neighborhood"
16" guns? That's the Heavy Metal division of the International Defensive Howitzer Association. "They pull a knife, you pull a howitzer. They put one of yours in the hospital, you put a beehive round in City Hall."
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MarkD wrote:... Of course the media has to paint them as all sorts of crazy for believing the government is over-reaching its authority.
I already thought they were sufficiently crazy for trying to go trans-Pacific in a small craft with zero know-how. Loons.
The book to read on sailing to Polynesia / Micronesia is "The voyage of the seven little sisters" by William Willis. Fantastic.
Not the famous documentary film, "I Sailed to Tahiti With An All-Girl Crew"?
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"I support the Second Amendment, but". . .
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Windy Wilson wrote:The book to read on sailing to Polynesia / Micronesia is "The voyage of the seven little sisters" by William Willis. Fantastic.
Windy Wilson wrote:Not the famous documentary film, "I Sailed to Tahiti With An All-Girl Crew"?
Are you sure this isn't the X-Rated version you're thinking of??? It COULD be quite entertaining!!!!
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