I absolutely refuse to think about anything regarding the events in The Avengers or any time they might've tried to pull a fast one. I mean, it's a fun movie. It's a really fun movie.
It is also probably the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life. As usual, Whedon played to his strength: witty repartee. But the plot was completely phoned in, Captain America was reduced to a dumb jock being bullied by nerds, Loki the Trickster God was outwitted by literally everyone...
I want to keep enjoying it, so I'm not going to think about it.
Joss Whedon returns
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Aesop
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Hey, you might have noticed they weren't speaking in iambic pentameter too.
If you went to a comic book movie, based on comic books, and produced by the pinnacle of comic book production companies, directly overseen by the High Priest of comic books, I hope you weren't expecting King Lear.
If you went to a comic book movie, based on comic books, and produced by the pinnacle of comic book production companies, directly overseen by the High Priest of comic books, I hope you weren't expecting King Lear.
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Jericho941
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You're more or less arguing my point. I don't care whatever "clever hints" Whedon might've stuck in it, because that's the kind of thing you worry about after the basics like plot and characterization. If the plot is weak you can make any hole out to be a hint or foreshadowing for something you haven't even come up with until halfway through writing the sequel. Like I said, Whedon basically did what he does best: Characters being snarky with each other along with the obligatory unstoppable barefoot ninja chick. Even if Whedon clearly hates Captain America. 
So, the tl;dr version is: Ha ha there sure were some funny lines and the Hulk sure smashed some stuff. Fun. But the brain needs to stay far away from this one.
So, the tl;dr version is: Ha ha there sure were some funny lines and the Hulk sure smashed some stuff. Fun. But the brain needs to stay far away from this one.
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Aesop
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It's TV.
If anyone is using their brain on most of it in the first place, they took the wrong bus to school.
Random example: a novel from C.S. Lewis or Tolkien is, say, 300 single-spaced paperback pages.
The average movie script is 120 (180 for a LOTR movie), say a page/minute.
A TV show is <45.
And that's 45 SCRIPT pages, where the margins are 2/3rds of the page, and character names and stage direction are 30% of what's left.
When I sit down on set, I can read through the average movie script in about 20 minutes, cover to cover, and have done so many times.
There's a reason comic books translate so well onto the screen, and it isn't only because the comic is a ready-made storyboard and shooting list.
Handing Wheedon a comic book and telling him to make a movie or TV series is like handing a redneck a case of hand grenades, and sending him to Sea World and asking him to come up with fresh fish.
It's stupid easy.
If anyone is using their brain on most of it in the first place, they took the wrong bus to school.
Random example: a novel from C.S. Lewis or Tolkien is, say, 300 single-spaced paperback pages.
The average movie script is 120 (180 for a LOTR movie), say a page/minute.
A TV show is <45.
And that's 45 SCRIPT pages, where the margins are 2/3rds of the page, and character names and stage direction are 30% of what's left.
When I sit down on set, I can read through the average movie script in about 20 minutes, cover to cover, and have done so many times.
There's a reason comic books translate so well onto the screen, and it isn't only because the comic is a ready-made storyboard and shooting list.
Handing Wheedon a comic book and telling him to make a movie or TV series is like handing a redneck a case of hand grenades, and sending him to Sea World and asking him to come up with fresh fish.
It's stupid easy.
"There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy." -Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
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The messing-up of Starship Troopers was pretty bad. The only way it could be made better is to mix it with another movie. I'll suggest using a police comedy to create Starship SuperTroopers.
Remember, folks, you can't spell "douche" without "Che."
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Starship Bloopers?
Note to self: start reading sig lines. They're actually quite amusing. :D
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RamRod's Roughnecks.Weetabix wrote:Starship Bloopers?
Remember, folks, you can't spell "douche" without "Che."
“PET PARENTS?” You’re not a “pet parent.” You’re a pet owner. Unless you’ve committed an unnatural act that succeeded in spite of biology. - Glenn Reynolds
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Aesop
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Gomer Pyle, Mobile Infantry
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Starship Bloopers 2: Meow of the Federation
Starship Bloopers 3: Shenanigans
Starship Bloopers 3: Shenanigans
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"I swear to God I will pistol whip the next guy who says Shenanigans!"JustinR wrote:Starship Bloopers 2: Meow of the Federation
Starship Bloopers 3: Shenanigans
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