Error 651

[Rich]

Error 651.

This is what I'm getting on a Windows 7 install on a new AMD system whenever I try to connect to the Net. Yet I can get up, walk into the next room, turn on this laptop and automatically connect using the Windows 7 install in my dual boot system. Both Windows 7 installs are from the same source disk (one of the three install ones.).

Looking up a solution on the net is apparently of very little help, as Microsoft seems to be "working" on it and third party solutions are "blunder about" until something works.

Oh yeah, again it's not my computer. I'm just doing a good deed for people I know, and must be punished for doing a good deed.

(Wonder what would happen if everyone who encountered problems like this, would pack them up and send them directly to Ballmer.)

[Darrell]

Mine does that occasionally, the pc and the modem aren't hooking up. I might restart the computer, and/or reset the modem.

[mekender]

From a quick look, it seems like this is an error relating to either dial up networking or PPPoE is that the case?

[Rich]

From a quick look, it seems like this is an error relating to either dial up networking or PPPoE is that the case?

That's what it appears as. A couple of significant clues are that IE's work offline box is checked and I cannot get it to stay unchecked, and I have yellow checkmarks on both Ethernet Controller and SM Bus Controller in Device Manager, and I can't seem to get rid of those either.

A complete re-install did not help.

After looking at what is out on the net and what actions have been done by others, I'm being lead to believe what I have is a instability problem between Windows software and modem/ISP software, as the fixes that are claimed to have worked are all over the place.

Another, probably unrelated thing involves the DVD. It is a PATA unit, whereas the Mobo (new ASRock A55) is SATA only (as is the HDD), so I am using a converter module (which may be the problem). Anyhow, I put the DVD for Microsoft Works in and closed the door, and nothing seemed to happen. I go to look at what devices I have under Computer (on the main menu) and see the HDD and the DVD. I also see a colored line slowly creeping along horizontally across the top of the window. When it reaches the other side, my DVD symbol disappears. I have to remove the DVD from the drive (the door button still works) and reboot to get it back.

I'll try another converter module, and if that doesn't work, I'll spring for a SIIG controller card, which will give the installation a PATA controller again.

[mekender]

Ok, so do you use Dial up or a PPPoE connection get on the internet?

[Rich]

Ok, so do you use Dial up or a PPPoE connection get on the internet?

Times Warner cable via a lan, if that helps. Right now I'm on a Linux box, and I can't seem to find that info here. Since the connection is always "on", my best guess would be PPPoE.

[Greg]

Ok, so do you use Dial up or a PPPoE connection get on the internet?

Times Warner cable via a lan, if that helps. Right now I'm on a Linux box, and I can't seem to find that info here. Since the connection is always "on", my best guess would be PPPoE.

That's weird and also incredibly unsound. You really don't want your machine, any machine, directly connected to the Internet. When I was on a service that used PPPoE (Verizon DSL), I had a separate "DSL modem" that actually did the PPPoE stuff to connect to Verizon's network, that then provided Ethernet connectivity to whatever was plugged into it, just like a regular router box. (Which is was, it was also a NAT router.)

[Rich]

That's weird and also incredibly unsound. You really don't want your machine, any machine, directly connected to the Internet.

Greg, I have a pretty vanilla home wifi setup that goes:

Computer (whichever of my four (counting my tablet) I'm using) wireless connection to router (d-link di-924).

Router (di-924) ethernet cable to cable modem (Motorola Surfboard SB-5101).

Cable modem (SB-5101) to ISP (Times Warner Cable).

Like I said, pretty vanilla.

[Greg]

That's weird and also incredibly unsound. You really don't want your machine, any machine, directly connected to the Internet.

Greg, I have a pretty vanilla home wifi setup that goes:

Computer (whichever of my four (counting my tablet) I'm using) wireless connection to router (d-link di-924).

Router (di-924) ethernet cable to cable modem (Motorola Surfboard SB-5101).

Cable modem (SB-5101) to ISP (Times Warner Cable).

Like I said, pretty vanilla.

Then you shouldn't have anything to do with PPPoE on this computer at all. It really sounds like a driver issue, especially with the Ethernet controller. Get the details on the hardware, and check for 'chipset drivers' for the motherboard chipset.

[mekender]

Then you shouldn't have anything to do with PPPoE on this computer at all. It really sounds like a driver issue, especially with the Ethernet controller. Get the details on the hardware, and check for 'chipset drivers' for the motherboard chipset.

Actually, it may be even easier than that... It may be that dial up networking is enabled and it does not need to be.