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The "Origin" makes for a nifty pre-made Bug-Out Altoid Tin, though I think most of us could make a similar rig for less money. I do like how the mirror, knife, and flint sparker don't take up room on the inside & have secure slots (or are attached by a hinge) on the outside.
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Cybrludite wrote:The "Origin" makes for a nifty pre-made Bug-Out Altoid Tin, though I think most of us could make a similar rig for less money. I do like how the mirror, knife, and flint sparker don't take up room on the inside & have secure slots (or are attached by a hinge) on the outside.
Not sure I do. Problem with having it on the outside is that it can get caught in other stuff, and maybe even fall out. For me it is far more practical to have everything contained inside a box. The total size is the same whether it's on the outside or the inside, and you really don't need to open the box unless you're in an emergency. If you need a knife or compass for whatever you're doing, you should take it with you, what's in a survival box should be left there until you're in an emergency and have lost your other gear.
I'd also put a belt loop on the outside, that way you can always have it on your belt and forget about it until you need it. If you have to pack it somewhere, it's usually not around when you need it.
But yeah, I think most people can put a box like that together on their own. The hardest part is finding a suitable box in the right size.
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50g rolling tobacco tins are good ( I get the impression you are too sensible to smoke though Erik ) - the only issue really is waterproofing them. It's possible with silicon sealer and tape but only until the first time you open the tin.
High quality plastic freezer boxes sold in supermarkets have the waterproofing, but you can't heat water in them of course.
What do you use ?
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Actually, I tend to not use these type of boxes, as I generally don't see a need for them. I always have a knife and anything else that I need on me when I'm outdoors, so unless I am planning to go anywhere where I might loose my pack, it's just one more thing to carry. I believe the best emergency gear are the one you carry anyway.
When I do carry a survival pack I generally just wrap it up tight in a (resealable) plastic bag to make it waterproof and stick it in a pocket or in a belt pouch. Or it can be put in a suitable tin, it doesn't have to be waterproof if the contents are enclosed in plastic. And it's always a bare minimum, I don't see the need for survival fishing gear or anything like that. I'd rather pack a survival blanket of some sort, exposure will get you long before lack of food will.
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Erik wrote: And it's always a bare minimum, I don't see the need for survival fishing gear or anything like that. I'd rather pack a survival blanket of some sort, exposure will get you long before lack of food will.
+1
My survival kit in the UK was geared to something going wrong while hunting and being stuck in a ditch with a broken ankle or similar. Maximum length of time maybe 12-24 hours.
So it wasn't actually 'surviving' ( the UK climate can be horrible but it won't usually kill you if you are dressed for it ) but more a case of having items to try and stay comfortable until someone came to get me. Aluminised space blanket being a major one.
Here my survival kit is water, water and water. With some backup water just in case
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Highspeed wrote:( the UK climate can be horrible but it won't usually kill you if you are dressed for it )
The survival tweed jacket and cardigan? "On the next 'Norman Clegg: Survivorman!'..."
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Re survival fishing gear. I have an AF issue set (bought surplus) that fits a pocket on my aircrew survival vest (also bought surplus, I tended to buy and use my own gear and store the issued stuff and turn it in unused when I moved on. I liked to modify and set things up to suit myself).
Bought it in the mid-80's. Used once, during AF Survival School. Didn't catch a thing. My head net (used primary to keep insects off my face and as camouflage) was much more useful at sweeping up small minnow like critters for the stew pot. Still, the hooks, lines etc. could be useful for repairs and small snares.
So yeah, another space blanket, or water filtration straw/purification tablets would be a better use of the space and weight.
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