skb12172 wrote:As of late, I've also been intrigued by the Marlin Youth Model, lever-action carbines in either .30-30 or .357M. I guess for ammo commonality, I'd be better off choosing the .357M. Any thoughts on them?
Not the youth model, but I do like my Marlin 1894C. Baby Termite has taken 2 deer with it, and I killed a whopping big tom bobcat. Mine wears a Weaver 2.5x20 scope.
It's really light, about 6 lbs, and plenty accurate for its realistic range.
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randy wrote:I've often thought about .357MAG lever action for a truck gun, but given the prices and scarcity of of used ones, I doubt it would ever get to that duty slot.
I liked it not only for commonality with my S&W Mod 19 (which I never carry CCW and is more of a house gun these days) and ammo flexibility (.38SPL, .38SP+P, Light loaded .357MAg, Full house .357Mag) that's easy to come by.
I see lots of used 30-30's at ELGS, some pretty beat up cosmetically and at reasonable prices, making them candidates for truck guns, But I really would rather not start with a new caliber to stock/reload.
I have been looking for a 357 lever for 2 years now. $450 rossi-s are the cheapest I could find.
Me too and I am pretty sure a lot of others are too. Nothing available at truck gun prices.
I first used a bayonet free M-44 but it was too bulky and the bayonet loopy thing caught on everything and being an .88 Magnum, I as always afraid of over penetration. I did the .30-30 for a while, but now I have ammo and magazine compatibility with a Sub 2000. I really need to get a hinged red dot for it as the sights / short LOP make it interesting to get on target past 75 yds.
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I guess my point was the ambivilence to the beretta. Ive trained on it, im comfortable with it and shoot it decently. But it would never be my choice even after all that.
If I kept a long arm in the truck it would be a M44 Mosin-Nagant. I'd also keep it loaded with Czech sliver-tip, since if I actually do need a rifle for any reason I suspect I also am going to need penetration.
They are also still very affordable, if it got stolen I'd be out less money than if someone stole my spare tire.
randy wrote:I've often thought about .357MAG lever action for a truck gun...
I have been looking for a 357 lever for 2 years now. $450 rossi-s are the cheapest I could find.
At the range last week, I handed younger nephew (age 12) a Winchester and a box of .357Mag to try. He's still grinning, and now he wants one of his own. I may well get him one in .30-30, since .357Mag is not legal here for deer.
Short, light, handy, neat, accurate within the range of the cartridge. Excellent!
If you do find a levergun in .357 Magnum, Randy, it's worth it. Again, it's not for rifle distances (200+ yards), but most "get off my lawn" scenarios in suburban neighborhoods don't go past 100 yards. I was doing quite well with Black Hills 158-grain JHPs in the rifle out to 100 yards. The only thing I haven't come up with is a way to speed load 10 more rounds of .357 through the loading gate of my Rossi M92. (Well, you never know when there will be two armored zombie hippie commie black bears at spitting distance. I'd want something a little oomphier for grizzlies.)
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NVGdude wrote:If I kept a long arm in the truck it would be a M44 Mosin-Nagant. I'd also keep it loaded with Czech sliver-tip, since if I actually do need a rifle for any reason I suspect I also am going to need penetration.
They are also still very affordable, if it got stolen I'd be out less money than if someone stole my spare tire.
The bolt action wouldn't turn you off? I've ran into many around here that believe it's slower than a lever and certainly slower than a semi-auto like the SKS.
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If a bolt-gun fits properly, you can work it at the shoulder w.o. being too much slower than a lever.
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Aglifter wrote:If a bolt-gun fits properly, you can work it at the shoulder w.o. being too much slower than a lever.
With practice, you can work a bolt astoundingly fast. Unfortunately, most shooters have the bad habit of dismounting the gun to work the bolt, which can be disastrous to a quick follow-up shot. A straight-pull like the Blaser R93 or Swiss K31 is even faster...
There was an article in the American Rifleman, about average speed of the action, by type, with Semi's being excluded for obvious reasons. Pumps were fastest, and bolt guns were second slowest, just behind single shots.
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