design input for mk IV Chest Plate

[Precision]

Poster on the Enos forum selling extra pieces of AR500, cut into basic shapes.

linky no worky.

[Combat Controller]

Put each individual plate into several layers of women's nylon hose. It will disperse the energy a tiny bit when layered but also keep each plate and it's attending material together. Then over spray it with liquid rubber to act as a self sealing compound. If you can find the smaller strip tile's 1x1 inch use those as your flexible sheet, you can even lay one over the other offset.

[Highspeed]

Original thread was super interesting, been meaning to mention that, thanks.

Some random thinkings :-

1) I've got some titanium plate I can't ever see me using but unfortunately it's in 125mm x 50mm pieces and I only have 3 or 4 of them. Otherwise I'd send it to you. The Russians use titanium in their body armour, but then they have the largest resources of the stuff on the planet IIRC

2) Carpet tiles ( kind of following on from CC's observations ). I used carpet tiles, the industrial variety, for my bullet trap ( dumpster dove\dived them from a department store which was being refitted )
The plastic fibres would melt as the bullet passed through, grab onto it and slow it down way more than I expected them to.

3) I do have a kevlar vest originally issued to special ops types in Northern Ireland, slimline for wearing covertly under civilian clothes. I have cut it up slightly to fit it inside a UK military issue plate carrier. Would you like that ? I've got something better now so it's not needed

[308Mike]

What about using a layer of that physical-therapy putty, the type that bends and moves REAL easy when little force is applied but get exponentially more resistance once additional force/impact is applied? In some places, it's called "Theraputty" - and if you Google it, you wind up with many various responses, and quite a few products.

For someone wearing such a vest, it would have flexibility, wear-ability, it can mold to the user's/wearer's body, and yet still react to a sharp impact by rapidly stiffening-up and helping provide protection to soft-tissue damage from the initial impacts - especially if the impact has to traverse a couple of layers to get to the material - giving it time to react and stiffen up as the force is RAPIDLY increased - thus protecting the wearer from potential bruising and potential soft-tissue damage.

Of course, I could be dreaming, but it might be worth exploring (and if you make $$ MILLIONS $$ off my idea, I want a small slice and a couple of new guns). But if it really comes to fruition, I'd like to help create, design, test, market, etc., etc. the new product. I *LIKE* helping save lives!

YMMV.

[Precision]

Original thread was super interesting, been meaning to mention that, thanks.

Some random thinkings :-

1) I've got some titanium plate I can't ever see me using but unfortunately it's in 125mm x 50mm pieces and I only have 3 or 4 of them. Otherwise I'd send it to you. The Russians use titanium in their body armour, but then they have the largest resources of the stuff on the planet IIRC

Hey free titanium. I'll take it.

2) Carpet tiles ( kind of following on from CC's observations ). I used carpet tiles, the industrial variety, for my bullet trap ( dumpster dove\dived them from a department store which was being refitted )
The plastic fibres would melt as the bullet passed through, grab onto it and slow it down way more than I expected them to.

may be an avenue to pursue, but I think it fails on the bulk reduction side.

3) I do have a kevlar vest originally issued to special ops types in Northern Ireland, slimline for wearing covertly under civilian clothes. I have cut it up slightly to fit it inside a UK military issue plate carrier. Would you like that ? I've got something better now so it's not needed

Are you kidding? A free vest. The son will crap himself.

Let me know how to get you my address and how much you think shipping will be so I can send you some funds for compensation beer or bourbon.

[Precision]

What about using a layer of that physical-therapy putty, the type that bends and moves REAL easy when little force is applied but get exponentially more resistance once additional force/impact is applied? In some places, it's called "Theraputty" - and if you Google it, you wind up with many various responses, and quite a few products.

For someone wearing such a vest, it would have flexibility, wear-ability, it can mold to the user's/wearer's body, and yet still react to a sharp impact by rapidly stiffening-up and helping provide protection to soft-tissue damage from the initial impacts - especially if the impact has to traverse a couple of layers to get to the material - giving it time to react and stiffen up as the force is RAPIDLY increased - thus protecting the wearer from potential bruising and potential soft-tissue damage.

Of course, I could be dreaming, but it might be worth exploring (and if you make $$ MILLIONS $$ off my idea, I want a small slice and a couple of new guns). But if it really comes to fruition, I'd like to help create, design, test, market, etc., etc. the new product. I *LIKE* helping save lives!

YMMV.

Thats a deal. I will have to look for that stuff and give it a go on Mk IV. Putting that between layers of porcelain tile or between the porcelain and the steel or even behind the steel. OH CRAP, I just made 3 versions of mk IV.

[Highspeed]

Hey free titanium. I'll take it.
Are you kidding? A free vest. The son will crap himself.

Let me know how to get you my address and how much you think shipping will be so I can send you some funds for compensation beer or bourbon.

Email sent via the forum, no warranty implied on the vest BTW

[toad]

Back during WW II the Brits did some experimental armor for merchant ships that worked the coasts that were getting straffed by German aircraft. They put granite chips into asphalt and slathered it onto the steel used on merchant ships. One test fires the granite chips were hard enough to shatter or blunt machine gun rounds. The problem they ran into using it was resistance from the old RN types.
A variation was some post war experiments by the US for tank armor. They sandwiched a sheet of glass between between two layers of steel. The hard glass would defeat an armor piercing round or a heat round. The only problem was it would only do for one hit. The whole glass sheet would shatter after the one hit.

[Aglifter]

(This is not a joke) Chocolate has excellent energy dispersion properties when solidified.

As someone who's had chocolate jam some serious machinery, and cause ice cream and chocolate to start flowing out of all kinds of places - I agree.

[Precision]

(This is not a joke) Chocolate has excellent energy dispersion properties when solidified.

As someone who's had chocolate jam some serious machinery, and cause ice cream and chocolate to start flowing out of all kinds of places - I agree.

That I don't doubt. The problem is with roaches and other vermin reducing (eating away) the effectiveness of my armor.