Slipstream lube/Crusader Weaponry generousity

[HTRN]

How does it compare to say, Machinegunners lube, or even just straight Mobil 1?

[blackeagle603]

better. Apply it wipe it dry. The secret sauce is the nano particles that are carried by the synthetic oil/grease. The oil is there to carry and distribute the nano particles. The nano particles do the heavy lifting. That's why it runs so well even hot and dry. Apparently the improvement after multiple applications has to do with the nano particles distribution, embedding and accumulating.

[blackeagle603]

obtw, it's working wonders on various tools and rotating bits. I'm using all over now. Electric motor bearings, etc.

[HTRN]

The secret sauce is the nano particles

"nanoparticles" is a marketing buzzword. But I have a strong suspicion I know what the "secret sauce" is, after I just did some digging - MadOgre emphatically stated that it isn't Moly, which gave me an "aha!" moment.

[blackeagle603]

www.sciencedaily.com/articles/n/nanoparticle.htm
A nanoparticle (or nanopowder or nanocluster or nanocrystal) is a microscopic particle with at least one dimension less than 100 nm. Nanoparticle research is ...

You'd rather call is something else? Maybe HTRN: High Tech Redneck Nanobits?

[HTRN]

No, it's a powdered dry film lubricant - when was the last time you saw the industrial suppliers for this stuff throw around "nanoparticle"? All them list it in microns, I think I saw him mention it was in the .05 range in one of his comments.

As for what it is, well, I strongly suspect that it's Tungsten Disulphide. If so, he's wrong that it's never been used in the Gun industry... It was the coating in Danzac, which is how I got the aha! moment - He mentioned it wasn't Moly, and it brought to mind bullet coatings - I was thinking about trying Danzac as a bullet coating if/when I get a 17 Remington, but because it was discontinued, I had to look for a source for the material, which is Tungsten Disulphide. That led me to LowerFriction, which sells it for 54 bucks a pound.

If it is, in fact Tungsten Disulphide, it's certainly a better lube than something with Moly - It has a lower coefficient of friction, is more stable, and is all around a better performing dry lubricant. The downside to it is cost - it's like 5 times as much as Moly.

[Darrell]

Some years ago Mad Ogre was touting a product called Microlon Gun Juice:

http://www.microlon.com/gun_metal_treatment.php

Its selling points are much like Slipstream's--some wonder stuff that "soaked" into the metal surface of barrels, increasing muzzle velocity, lowering friction, making cleaning easier, etc. etc. You'd swab the barrel with it while sighting in, shoot one, and repeat 8-10 times. When the patch started coming out clean and the bullet stopped rising on the target you were done. It came as a cloudy gray liquid in a small bottle, and you had to shake well before use--some very fine particles in suspension. They also sell an assembly lube with the same properties, as well as a pen oiler. I tried a bottle or two, with questionable results. Reading their webpage, they call it a resin.

Along the same lines, at work I've used two interesting products, maybe not new to forum members--TriFlow oil, and BreakFree PCL. Triflow is a teflon impregnated oil, IIRC. PCL is the industrial counterpart to BreakFree CLP. I'm impressed with its performance--it's a penetrating lubricant. Works great on rusty chains--give the parts a good dousing, run it in a little bit, then let sit overnight. It pulls out rust like crazy.

ETA: Here are two youtube videos of a British guy trying Microlon Gun Juice on his (very nice) Anschutz .22 rifle:

Part one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t71hfsLZ-fY

Part two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg2CQRhtt2I

Interesting, if debatable, results. He seems to think it does work.

[HTRN]

Triflow I've heard of, I think there's a coupla guys on M4carbine.net that use it.

It's sold on Amazon these days(but then, what isn't?)

[Darrell]

I talked to the gunsmith at the range tonight--he has tried the Slipstream oil and grease, and while he didn't hear angels sing, he did like the stuff. He seemed more impressed with the oil than the grease. He intends to buy some, he must like it.

[Combat Controller]

I second the Tungsten Disulphide theory. Further, I think the suspension medium is sacrificial which means microscopic etching to give all the particles a home.

Not banging on it, it's not bad but it's not a magic potion either. I also doubt they have ground it down to nano size, .05 seems the average without adding greater cost and effort.