European Bike/Scooter Riders Crashing

[308Mike]

I understand that when large numbers of people begin doing a certain activity, when their numbers increase, so does the numbers of IDIOTS & MORONS riding/driving the machines. So, when more and more people start riding scooters, then combine that with either Road Rage and/or impatience along with little regard for anyone else - then you're GOING TO HAVE more and more vehicle accidents based upon sheer stupidity.

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Otherwise, enjoy watching these IDIOTS riding their scooters into objects, each other, cars, etc., etc. Granted not ALL are idiots, some are victims of IDIOTS IN CARS - and we ALL know there are more than enough of those!!

[MarkD]

My wife and I did a bus tour in Italy in 2010, and the scooter riders (especially in Rome) all aspired to be organ donors. One guy passed our bus, and there was another bus coming the other way, so he was between the two buses with inches of clearance on each side. Rocco would have had to hose him off the bus if it had been any closer.

[Erik]

Are those really European riders? The signs look as if it's in Asia somewhere. Not that it couldn't just as well be in some European countries.

I've heard that in some countries scooters don't require a driving license or any training, so a lot of people getting them doesn't have a clue in how handle the added speed of a motor vehicle, nor how to drive safely and pay attention to the situation. Add in a traffic culture that seems to imply that whoever is first has the right of way, and the scooters tend to be on the loosing end.

[Cobar]

Here in North Carolina Mopeds/underpowered scooters do not require a license

Moped Defintion
vehicle with two or three wheels with a motor of no more than 50 cubic centimeters of piston displacement and no external shifting device. Legally, a moped's top speed cannot exceed 30 mph on a level surface.

So everyone that gets their license yanked for a DWI ends up making their commute and beer runs on these things. Talk about a traffic hazard.

[Termite]

Here in North Carolina Mopeds/underpowered scooters do not require a license

Moped Defintion
vehicle with two or three wheels with a motor of no more than 50 cubic centimeters of piston displacement and no external shifting device. Legally, a moped's top speed cannot exceed 30 mph on a level surface.

So everyone that gets their license yanked for a DWI ends up making their commute and beer runs on these things. Talk about a traffic hazard.

Look at the bright side. At least a DWI(SWI?) on a 50cc scooter isn't going to do much damage to cars, trucks, etc.

[Greg]

Here in North Carolina Mopeds/underpowered scooters do not require a license

Moped Defintion
vehicle with two or three wheels with a motor of no more than 50 cubic centimeters of piston displacement and no external shifting device. Legally, a moped's top speed cannot exceed 30 mph on a level surface.

So everyone that gets their license yanked for a DWI ends up making their commute and beer runs on these things. Talk about a traffic hazard.

Look at the bright side. At least a DWI(SWI?) on a 50cc scooter isn't going to do much damage to cars, trucks, etc.

Er, no. Should learn something from the elderly types who think it's still safe for them to drive because they go really SLOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW - they're like the Typhoid Mary's of traffic accidents. They're carriers. They cause mayhem and terror but putter off at 30mph (on the Interstate) unscathed, leaving flaming wreckage in their wake.

The danger in this situation is not the scooter itself, it's what happens when other people, in real vehicles, resort to extreme measures to try not to kill the idiots on the scooters.

[Erik]

Here in North Carolina Mopeds/underpowered scooters do not require a license

Moped Defintion
vehicle with two or three wheels with a motor of no more than 50 cubic centimeters of piston displacement and no external shifting device. Legally, a moped's top speed cannot exceed 30 mph on a level surface.

So everyone that gets their license yanked for a DWI ends up making their commute and beer runs on these things. Talk about a traffic hazard.

A moped and a scooter isn't necessarily the same thing.
Here there are two types of "mopeds". One is the traditional moped allowed to go max 20mph and does not require a license or registration. The other is the "EU-moped", which is called that way because that's what a "moped" is in most EU countries. They can go max 30mph and requires registration and "some form of license" to drive them. As I understand it, any drivers license or a basic test is enough.

Anything faster than that is classified as a "motorcycle" here, and requires registration and a drivers license. A 50cc scooter can go faster than 40mph without problems, and might top 60mph with some work done. So they are classified as "motorcycles".
Which is probably why I don't see that many scooters around here. If you have to pay for a license and registration, (very expensive) you might as well get a car or a real motorcycle.

[Termite]

The danger in this situation is not the scooter itself, it's what happens when other people, in real vehicles, resort to extreme measures to try not to kill the idiots on the scooters.

Then the scooter idiots will get their ass run over around me. And I say that as a motorcyclist; in fact I'm going to fire up the ZR-7 today.
I will take all SAFE possible measures to avoid hitting idiots on motorcycles/scooters. But if it's me hitting them or hitting an 18 wheeler/utility pole/ embankment because they are at fault and stupid, then they just volunteered to be road pizza.

[Cobar]

Here in North Carolina Mopeds/underpowered scooters do not require a license
So everyone that gets their license yanked for a DWI ends up making their commute and beer runs on these things. Talk about a traffic hazard.

Look at the bright side. At least a DWI(SWI?) on a 50cc scooter isn't going to do much damage to cars, trucks, etc.

Er, no. Should learn something from the elderly types who think it's still safe for them to drive because they go really SLOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW - they're like the Typhoid Mary's of traffic accidents. They're carriers. They cause mayhem and terror but putter off at 30mph (on the Interstate) unscathed, leaving flaming wreckage in their wake.

The danger in this situation is not the scooter itself, it's what happens when other people, in real vehicles, resort to extreme measures to try not to kill the idiots on the scooters.

exactly.

A moped and a scooter isn't necessarily the same thing.
Here there are two types of "mopeds". One is the traditional moped allowed to go max 20mph and does not require a license or registration. The other is the "EU-moped", which is called that way because that's what a "moped" is in most EU countries. They can go max 30mph and requires registration and "some form of license" to drive them. As I understand it, any drivers license or a basic test is enough.

Anything faster than that is classified as a "motorcycle" here, and requires registration and a drivers license. A 50cc scooter can go faster than 40mph without problems, and might top 60mph with some work done. So they are classified as "motorcycles".
Which is probably why I don't see that many scooters around here. If you have to pay for a license and registration, (very expensive) you might as well get a car or a real motorcycle.

That is why I wrote underpowered scooter. Anything with a larger engine and not limited to 30mph is classified as a motorcycle and requires a license.

[rightisright]

Does everyone in those countries have a dash cam? I can't imagine all those crashes are only on police dash cams...