A Layered Approach to Firestarting

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Re: A Layered Approach to Firestarting

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arctictom wrote:I always have flares,but 3-5 gal of #1 fuel oil is the best, and a good back up plan is a propane torch, butane lighters, water proof matches, several fire-starters, including wax, various fats, etc.
Being cold sucks, just ask any Alaskan how to start a fire and you will get a how to in short order .
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Another one of the many uses for WD-40. Was in a bind/hurryup get a fire going situation while camping in Yosemite a couple years ago after a downpour with wet kindling...
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Blast Match

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYRKzdSXH34

Cotton balls soaked in Vaseline petroleum jelly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtnyZNEE ... re=related

Cheap, light weight, simple to use.
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Re: A Layered Approach to Firestarting

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moose42 wrote:
Put your tinder on top of a larger log. Get it up off the ground. The ground will pull a lot heat out of your fire.

(Don't ask)
Even more so with wet ground. The moisture gets pulled into the fire.
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35 posts, and nobody has mentioned thermite, yet?
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Netpackrat wrote:
arctictom wrote:I always have flares,but 3-5 gal of #1 fuel oil is the best, and a good back up plan is a propane torch, butane lighters, water proof matches, several fire-starters, including wax, various fats, etc.
Being cold sucks, just ask any Alaskan how to start a fire and you will get a how to in short order .
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Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
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CByrneIV wrote:
Guncrazy wrote:35 posts, and nobody has mentioned thermite, yet?
Do you know how much of a pain in the ass it is to actually ignite thermite?
Yes. But it is even harder to extinguish! I would suggest asking that tank driver in Iraq and our former downstairs neighbors at Ultimate Privacy but I think one has immigrated and the others have sworn off startups!
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Sterno. I also use the canned heaters with wicks for chafing dishes that I get at Sams. Inside Cheyenne Mntn one time, I had to wait for over an hour to get a special permit from the fire guys just to light the little sterno can that I was using to heat my knives to do a repair on some furniture. After that day, I got a plug in kind of a burn-in knife to do those repairs. I have never tried it but I would think a person could re-package some sterno fuel in a smaller container for lightweight travel purposes.....
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The very light weight corrugated white cardboard that is used to surround light bulbs, as liners for cookies etc. burns very hot...Shredded light cardboard is far better then plain paper...Being more porous there is larger air pockets between the fibres causing a far more intense heat.

I always carry a couple small pieces of fat wood in my fire sack but only use a small piece of it to get a wet fire going...There is a small bag of it in the trunk of all the family's vehicles.

There is a toothpaste styled tube, called "Fire Ribbon" that when squeezed onto a log and ignited burns intensely and is nice since it's sticky you can put it directly on the bottom side on a log.

I carry upon my person and within my pack: a Blast Match, a Strike Force (both by Gerber) with the Wet-Fire tinder packs, flint and steel with char cloth stuffed in a brass case with a magnifying glass in the lid, a magnesium fire starter, wind/water proof matches, Strike Any-Where matches, a Zippo lighter (and fuel), a high tech piezo super duper [refillable] butane lighter and a few disposable, piezo and/or regular, butane lighters as well.

There is fat wood, shredded cardboard, dryer lint, Vaseline cotton balls, tube of Vaseline, shaved fuzz sticks, fire ribbon, char cloth and frayed sisal rope in freezer bags for storage...They are ONLY used to start fires during inclement weather...Regular day, shore lunch is some birch bark, some twigs and some larger stuff started with a lighter--save the high prep stuff for high stress fire making...Know how to use the stuff but save it for when you need it.

Ultimate Survival -- who made the sparkers for Gerber -- also came out with a new device called "The Sparkie"...2.3" x 2" x .05" long, weighs 0.08 oz., in sand or orange and has a lanyard hole so you can carry it on your keychain (which I do)...$11.00 on sale, regular street price about $14.00...They work!

There is also some chemical starters...The one I had consisted of two squeeze bottles each with a different, volatile, ingredient within...You "spritzed" some of bottle A on the tinder and then some from bottle B and voila, it exploded into flame...You also had to do it in A then B or it didn't work...The instructions said you had to store then apart--duh, obviously but what they didn't tell you is that the liquids are somewhat corrosive, eat through plastic bread wrappers quite easily (and quickly) and the chemical company never replaced the Kelty Framed backpack that exploded into flame, whilst I was wearing it mind you...I was able to remove the pack but the contents (five days of food and clothing etc. of a seven day backpack trip) were totally destroyed--the metal frame--in a few spots, even melted into a puddle of aluminium "nothingness" due to the fire's intensity...I'd really like to find that type of accelerant again but since that "dweeboid" got some onto the aeroplane you can't find it anywhere (places that I'm looking in) and the "NEW" stuff is supposed to be more stable and you actually have to mix then together before applying the paste that, after agitation, it turns into.
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