Hidey Guns Around The House

[Fill]

how about the Kel-Tec P3AT? <$300 NIB, cheap ammo, easy to stash, reliable...

[Flintlock Tom]

I know this thread was aimed at folks starting from scratch, but I started thinking about what cheap guns I could get. Then I remembered I have a dozen handguns already and they need to be kept somewhere.
So instead of going out and buying three or four additional handguns I could just unlock the file cabinet and relocate a half dozen or so.
The only flaw in the plan is when I forget where I put them.

[Rich]

I known this thread was aimed at folks starting from scratch, but I started thinking about what cheap guns I could get. Then I remembered I have a dozen handguns already and they need to be kept somewhere.
So instead of going out and buying three or four additional handguns I could just unlock the file cabinet and relocate a half dozen or so.
The only flaw in the plan is when I forget where I put them.

Well, first you make a list of all the locations indicating what is where, then you post that list where you are sure to see it, like on the refrigerator or at the front door where you will be sure to see it when you enter the house.

Don't worry about intruders, they usually can't read very well.

Couldn't resist the snark.

[Flintlock Tom]

I known this thread was aimed at folks starting from scratch, but I started thinking about what cheap guns I could get. Then I remembered I have a dozen handguns already and they need to be kept somewhere.
So instead of going out and buying three or four additional handguns I could just unlock the file cabinet and relocate a half dozen or so.
The only flaw in the plan is when I forget where I put them.

Well, first you make a list of all the locations indicating what is where, then you post that list where you are sure to see it, like on the refrigerator or at the front door where you will be sure to see it when you enter the house.

Don't worry about intruders, they usually can't read very well.

Couldn't resist the snark.

I suppose as a convenience to the non-English speakers I could draw a diagram.
I'm in the process of replacing the walls in our kitchen with new sheet-rock. I am seriously considering putting a couple guns inside the wall. If needed I could punch through the drywall. This would be handy if the .gov thugs come and take all the visible guns or looters have been through the place in my absence. For the hypothetical home invasion which started this thread it would not be too convenient on a moments notice, however.

[Durham68]

how about the Kel-Tec P3AT? <$300 NIB, cheap ammo, easy to stash, reliable...

I am seeing them in the used counters under $200 consistently. Saw a nice one for $175 last week and I think he'd let it out the door for that.

[Ben Rumson]

Interesting article on the Nagant.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... ntent;col1

[SeekHer]

It matters naught what the brand is but the cost -- the most guns he can buy, period!

But you also have to consider three major factors, those being a) reliability, b) ease of use and c) stopping power...The gun has to fire the first time and make it through one cylinder/magazine/clip...That's it. no more! There is no reloading. You have to kill, incapacitate or cause the invaders to flee...But it has to fire that first time, every time and it has to be stout enough to stop the attack

It doesn't matter if the ammo is $8 a box of fifty or $50 a box of fifty as you're only buying one, maybe, at most, two boxes...Fourteen rounds per gun is ninety eight shells for seven pistols or forty two for revolvers.

Oh, whoopee I can get a .22 LR for $100 or a Nagant but why bother...I've got a grand to spend and I can buy ten of those or five Hi Points in .40 S&W.

The rimfire is not a survival or personal defence round unless it’s all you happen to have with you when you need it…It is not something you go out and buy purposely, solely for P/HD or to stake your life on.

Nor is a pistol that requires both hands to pull the trigger (even after a trigger job) and is, at best, a marginal calibre and remember that every two and a half trigger jobs is one less gun to own so your grand will only buy six revolvers with trigger jobs...Another thing to consider is their size, they aren't pocket guns so slipping them down the sofa cushion may be a little difficult to extract...Those Hi Points are looking better and better...Firepower--Magazine capacity (18+1), stopping power--.40 S&W and I believe they will fire and empty their clip when needed.

It doesn't matter if it's the Hi Points or some other brand that you could purchase for cheap and it doesn't matter (but it's preferred) that they be in the same calibre but you're looking for concealability and a shotgun, while the most effective HD firearm available won't store easily in the kitchen or family room drawer or in the sofa/arm chair cushions.

Ideally, you want a two tier system of quick accessibility to a handgun that will allow you the time to transition to a shotgun for a static defence position…First, six HP pistols ($1,048) or second, three HP .40 S&W pistols ($524) and two pump shotguns like an Ithaca 37 or Winchester 1100 ($500 used) both cost you $100 more—with ammo but the second gives you far better options of survival.

There is another aspect to consider—packing! Buy $800 of handguns, $200 for kydex holsters and every time you walk in your door you, your significant other and your children strap the holster on and then you don’t have to worry about hiding the pieces

[Flintlock Tom]

There is another aspect to consider—packing! Buy $800 of handguns, $200 for kydex holsters and every time you walk in your door you, your significant other and your children strap the holster on and then you don’t have to worry about hiding the pieces

And if it's on your belt you don't have to remember where you hid it.

[skb12172]

Except for the fact that they caught this guy from behind and unawares. I hate to keep pushing the point, but in my mind this was THE main reason I started this thread. It certainly speaks in favor of a four-legged, early warning system, if nothing else.

[Aglifter]

There is another aspect to consider—packing! Buy $800 of handguns, $200 for kydex holsters and every time you walk in your door you, your significant other and your children strap the holster on and then you don’t have to worry about hiding the pieces

And if it's on your belt you don't have to remember where you hid it.

But then you deprive yourself of that "Christmas Morning as a young child" feeling when you find a cherished Colt behind a freezer, about 1.5 years later...