My Home Invasion Experiences This Summer

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Netpackrat
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mekender wrote:
Fill wrote:
mekender wrote:If you wake up at 3am and someone is sitting on your couch eating cereal and watching the Simpsons, you cant shoot them
What if they're watching Keith Olbermann?
Then I would just say "Hi Fill"
That one sailed right through the 10 ring.....

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mekender wrote:
Fill wrote:
mekender wrote:If you wake up at 3am and someone is sitting on your couch eating cereal and watching the Simpsons, you cant shoot them
What if they're watching Keith Olbermann?
Then I would just say "Hi Fill"
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That's mekender. Never miss a chance to make it personal.
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mekender wrote:Armed or not does not matter. If they are in the process of breaking in, then it is a good shoot. Once they enter, they must then pose a threat to you in order for you to have a good shoot.

If you wake up at 3am and someone is sitting on your couch eating cereal and watching the Simpsons, you cant shoot them
Going back to this, I think it is going to depend on where you live as to if you can shoot them or not. In AZ second degree (unarmed) burglary is on the magic list of offenses you can use lethal force against. So here there is a good chance that would be the last time Mr. B&E got to watch Olbermann.
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California Penal Code:
198.5. Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or
great bodily injury within his or her residence shall be presumed to
have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great
bodily injury to self, family, or a member of the household when that
force is used against another person, not a member of the family or
household, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and
forcibly entered the residence and the person using the force knew or
had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred.
As used in this section, great bodily injury means a significant
or substantial physical injury.

199. The homicide appearing to be justifiable or excusable, the
person indicted must, upon his trial, be fully acquitted and
discharged.
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I'm glad it all turned out OK bro.

You have obviously have a cool head combined with situational awareness.
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Weird thing happened at my place last night. Kids came running downstairs to tell me that there was a car parked outside on the street, and some people yelling on our lawn and that they threw something at the house. By the time I got upstairs, they'd taken off, but looking in the yard, I found an empty pizza box. With a name. And a phone number. Think I might have some fun with this.
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Highspeed wrote:I'm glad it all turned out OK bro.

You have obviously have a cool head combined with situational awareness.
And made the appropriate choices so that you didn't unnecessarily take a life, even if it would have been legal, but you still have to live with yourself and sleep at night. I know many cops who took a life 'casue they had no choice, but still wish they hadn't been forced to do so - and they carry the nightmares to go along with it.

I'm glad you didn't take the shot (and the life) when it wasn't absolutely necessary. OTOH, I have no doubt you'd pull the trigger if & when required. When you do, just remember, THEY are the ones making that choice, NOT you. They had ALL the options, you had a limited few, and they were dictated by what he did (or didn't do).

Hopefully, you scared someone STRAIGHT!!
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Kommander wrote:
mekender wrote:Armed or not does not matter. If they are in the process of breaking in, then it is a good shoot. Once they enter, they must then pose a threat to you in order for you to have a good shoot.

If you wake up at 3am and someone is sitting on your couch eating cereal and watching the Simpsons, you cant shoot them
Going back to this, I think it is going to depend on where you live as to if you can shoot them or not. In AZ second degree (unarmed) burglary is on the magic list of offenses you can use lethal force against. So here there is a good chance that would be the last time Mr. B&E got to watch Olbermann.
I was specifically referring to NC law.
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Here's our justifiable homicide statute in WA:
Homicide is also justifiable when committed either:

(1) In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, or of any other person in his presence or company, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or

(2) In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his presence, or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode, in which he is.
And we have RCW 9A.16.110:

(1) No person in the state shall be placed in legal jeopardy of any kind whatsoever for protecting by any reasonable means necessary, himself or herself, his or her family, or his or her real or personal property, or for coming to the aid of another who is in imminent danger of or the victim of assault, robbery, kidnapping, arson, burglary, rape, murder, or any other violent crime as defined in RCW 9.94A.030.

It also states that if a person is found not guilty because of self defense, the state has to pay the expenses of that person.
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