Cannon Safe Vs. 12ga.

[mekender]

http://www.thetacticalwire.com/story/221818

Baton Rouge, La. - Cannon is proud to pass along this story from a very satisfied Cannon safe owner. Unfortunately, earlier this month a Cannon safe owner's residence was burglarized, but their Cannon safe stood up to the ordeal. The thief attempted to break into the Cannon safe with a 12-gauge shotgun at point blank range using nearly a box of 12-gauge shotgun shells and various other implements, including a paring knife that stuck in the safe. The Cannon safe took quite a beating, even the keypad was blasted off landing some 20 feet away, barely recognizable, but the safe and its contents remained secure.

"This is the first and last gun safe we'll ever need," said the safe owner, Diane L. of Baton Rouge, La. "No wonder Cannon stands behind this safe; it's impenetrable! Great product."

The detective who investigated the robbery and the insurance adjuster both stated independently that they had never seen a gun safe blasted with a 12-gauge shotgun and the fact that the safe was still secure spoke volumes about the quality of Cannon's products. No one was home at the time of the robbery and the case is currently under investigation.

Cannon is proud to be the only company in the industry to offer a lifetime, hassle-free, zero cost warranty that includes free parts, labor, and freight for repair after a natural flood, attempted break-in, actual break-in or potential fire disaster. The company paid for a locksmith to drill the safe open and recover the owner's contents. Additionally, the old safe was removed from the owner's home and a new Cannon safe was delivered, all at no charge

Cannon offers trademark security, fire protection and elegance for gun owners, sportsmen and collectors. Undoubtedly the highest quality from top to bottom, all new Cannon safes feature a massive steel composite door, one-inch active-locking bolts, truelock internal hinges and surefire multiple re-lockers. Rugged uni-body construction from heavy steel provides superior protection. Three layers of extra-hard 60+ RC steel hard-plate guard the lock from drilling and punching. All models have verified fire ratings by Intertek ETL, the world's leading fire testing authority. This second-to-none fire protection is achieved with multiple layers of thick 5/8" fire board construction plus a triple fin intumescent cold smoke expandable seal and heat-activated door seal that expands many times when exposed to heat.

[Jered]

They shot it with a 12 ga. Doesn't say what ammo that they used.

[mekender]

They shot it with a 12 ga. Doesn't say what ammo that they used.

The wall to the left shows a lot of splatter, I would guess it wasnt bird shot.I would figure that bird shot would simply smash into the metal and not spray outward. I dont know for sure though.

[Flintlock Tom]

I would expect any steel plate to stand up to lead shot.
I want to see how it does with .30-06 AP.

Years ago my brother and I were out in the desert doing some shooting at an old mining site. I was shooting some .50 caliber muzzle-loading rounds (pure lead) at some old boilerplate. It was splattering like bird poop. Then my brother shoots the same boilerplate with some steel core 7.62x39 from his SKS. It went through the steel like a plasma cutter.

And speaking of shooting at stuff that stops bullets, I saw the movie Salt. Near the end the main character is trying to shoot through some bullet-proof glass. It looked like 9mm, rapid fire, perpendicular to the surface, from about 6 inches away. Scarring the glass, but not making it through. All the time I'm thinking: "where are all the bullets going?"

[Flintlock Tom]

And aren't these two statements contradictory?

The company paid for a locksmith to drill the safe open and recover the owner's contents.

Three layers of extra-hard 60+ RC steel hard-plate guard the lock from drilling and punching.

So, if a locksmith "can drill it open" why can't a burglar?

[Bob K]

Well, if the burglar had the blue prints of the safe, and the right fixtures, he could.

Which is why locksmiths are licensed, and require bonding and insurance. Try to get blue prints of a safe if you're not a locksmith.

[Darrell]

You can't buy advertising like that.

[mekender]

And aren't these two statements contradictory?

The company paid for a locksmith to drill the safe open and recover the owner's contents.

Three layers of extra-hard 60+ RC steel hard-plate guard the lock from drilling and punching.

So, if a locksmith "can drill it open" why can't a burglar?

In a lot of safes, there is a very small, very specific spot that can be drilled. Probably smaller than a dime. Knowing where that spot is and how far you have to drill in is what you go to lock smithing school for. People with that kind of knowledge don't typically burgle homes in the suburbs, when they go rogue, they hit banks.

[442nd Dinochrome]

I would expect any steel plate to stand up to lead shot.
I want to see how it does with .30-06 AP.

Years ago my brother and I were out in the desert doing some shooting at an old mining site. I was shooting some .50 caliber muzzle-loading rounds (pure lead) at some old boilerplate. It was splattering like bird poop. Then my brother shoots the same boilerplate with some steel core 7.62x39 from his SKS. It went through the steel like a plasma cutter.

And speaking of shooting at stuff that stops bullets, I saw the movie Salt. Near the end the main character is trying to shoot through some bullet-proof glass. It looked like 9mm, rapid fire, perpendicular to the surface, from about 6 inches away. Scarring the glass, but not making it through. All the time I'm thinking: "where are all the bullets going?"

I remember that day. Those Chinese steel-core 7.62x39 cartridges were made illegal in California
because they strike showers of sparks when fired against granite boulders. At the Sheriff's
Training Range in El Centro, I fired one round through the iron engine block of a target car and it
left a wound channel big enough to see daylight through.
Even if the AP round penetrated the safe, all the little holes wouldn't help getting the door open. Probably.

[blackeagle603]

Those steel core bullets aren't "illegal" in CA in rifle ammo. It's just that some ranges don't allow them due to fire danger.