Tool Chest opinions please

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HTRN wrote:I have Electrical tools(like Rotosplits, special expanding screwdrivers, etc), Machinist tools(which currently fill two Kennedy Boxes), Welding gear, Plumbing stuff(I'm not even sure how many big pipe wrenches are here - 3,4?), etc, across one standard sized rollaway, and countless tool boxes.
No offense, but you're the anomaly. Machinist/electrician/gear-head/handy man, and god only knows what else you are capable of.
I couldn't build a bird house without the state condemning it, but I can rebuild anything from a 2 stroke weed wacker to a 525 CAT. I understand why you would "try" to fit everything into a single box, but for a home set, most things could be hung on a wall. Wrenches/socket/ and such are what need to be organized in a single box.
Chris for example is a trained wood worker, not to mention a gear head and engineer. I doubt he would use a single box to hold coping and jig saws as well as "mechanics" tools. Most electricians I know can fit all of their(used daily) tools in a "bucket bag" and most machinists I know can fit their personal tools in what would be considered a small top box. Usually 1-2-3 blocks, parallels, clamping kits, and t-bolts are supplied by the shop. Yeah it's great to have your own so no one else touches them, but unless you work in a dedicated machine shop(not one that makes parts for a bigger factory) it is supplied. When I worked for Laidlaw, 1" drives were laying around the shop but I had my own so I didn't have to wait for a free one(and you really don't need a 1" to remove truck/bus wheels, it's just quicker). If I were to own one of the big snap-on or other brand boxes I would most likely spread myself too thin on tools and not using them.
Tool "compulsion" is a horrible disease I luckily overcame early.
Aglifter wrote:The big ones are useful to keep tools fast and easy to access, and organized.
The problem is when suddenly you need to find a use for all of those big drawers. One becomes standard sockets down to allen drivers, another becomes metric down to allen drives and yet a third becomes "deep" sockets. Then you throw in impacts and "large"(wheel bearing/4x4 retainer) sockets and you are constantly opening and closing drawers to find stuff. For the weekend "I change my own oil" mechanic it looks great to impress the neighbors. For someone who uses it 10 hours a day, every day, it becomes a hassle to keep organized. My "mechanic" tools are in my garage, my "lawn care" crap is in my shed and my limited home repair(again I can't drive a nail to save my life) tools are in a little box in the back of a closet.
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IrateIrishman wrote:No offense, but you're the anomaly.
Hey, SOMEBODY has to represent the right side of the bell curve. :lol:
IrateIrishman wrote:Machinist/electrician/gear-head/handy man, and god only knows what else you are capable of.
Eh, that's the thing - I'm willing to try just about anything, If I do a little research first. For instance, Charging Air Conditioning - What I know about AC/Refridgeration besides a rough theoretical understanding, could fill a matchbook cover, but after seeing this, I'd be willing to give charging my trucks system a shot(especially as the local bastards want an arm and a leg as I got one with multiple pumps and vents)


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Well hell, I didn't mean to cause bad feelings over a bloody tool cabinet. I finally got some pictures sized, here's the progress so far, though interrupted by a trip up north for Father's day.

IrateIrishman, the 26" stack you showed has 14 drawers and you also said you have two hanging side cabinets - I have a feeling that the total storage area in my new cabinet is probably less in space than what you have at work - only exception would be the wide drawer at the top of my cabinet. I will have a good deal of extra room for now. I wanted to get something that I could grow into.

Also in looking around I do believe that most if not all of the painted steel tool cabinets sold in and made in the U.S.A. are made by Waterloo - a lot of the Craftsman cabinets look like Waterloo's, and I bet that's why the side cabinets you got from StackOn fit perfectly.

Now, can we argue about something like "the 5.56 NATO is not an effective man-stopper", or "slow and heavy beats small and fast every time"?
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As my dad said "Buy quality and you'll only break the stuff that's supposed to break or wear out." So far none of his Snap-On or Craftsman stuff has broken and most of it is older than me. There's not even a hint of rust on his Mac toolbox, either, and it's been moved from high-humidity basements to high-humidity garages and so on in the forty years he's had it. Even the years he spent taking it to work every day as a heavy equipment mechanic didn't do much to it.
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Frankingun wrote:Well hell, I didn't mean to cause bad feelings over a bloody tool cabinet.
I'm certain HTRN knew I was joking when calling him "the anomaly".
Frankingun wrote:the 26" stack you showed has 14 drawers and you also said you have two hanging side cabinets - I have a feeling that the total storage area in my new cabinet is probably less in space than what you have
I would venture a guess that if the bottom right over size drawer was replaced with shorter ones, the square footage of drawer space would be about the same.
Frankingun wrote:only exception would be the wide drawer at the top of my cabinet. I will have a good deal of extra room for now. I wanted to get something that I could grow into.
With the mentioning of 50"+ roll-aways I was picturing a box much larger than the one you had purchased. Being close to the same drawer space(craftsman doesn't list cubic feet :x ) as my taller 26" you should have plenty of room for any tools you need and the advantage of a work surface on top. As to the side cabinets, they were only used to hold specialty tools in blow molded cases. I doubt you'll find a need for dedicated Navistar scanners and such. If the shops I worked in supplied those I would have had no need for the side cabinets.
Frankingun wrote:Also in looking around I do believe that most if not all of the painted steel tool cabinets sold in and made in the U.S.A. are made by Waterloo - a lot of the Craftsman cabinets look like Waterloo's, and I bet that's why the side cabinets you got from StackOn fit perfectly.
I wouldn't doubt craftsman outsourcing the cabinet building.
Frankingun wrote:Now, can we argue about something like "the 5.56 NATO is not an effective man-stopper", or "slow and heavy beats small and fast every time"?
Why did I read that as short and fat vs long and thin? :?
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My cabinet is listed by Sears as 41" x 18" x 41.25" with 15,902 cubic inches of space. The box itself is about 36" high, the casters bring it up to 41" or so. It should have plenty of room for me to grow into, since I do have a couple smaller boxes for household things. I'll definitely remember to stack 3/4" drive sockets on top of one another to save space, and I figure the deeper drawers at the bottom will hold drills and impact sockets when I get them, and probably a few molded cases for specialty items. After all, I'm not planning on building a boat, car or an aircraft - yet.

Some of the professional quality rolling cabinets are huge. Some went up to 6 feet and with a hooded work area cost over $10 large. Probably a good investment if you are doing your own thing like HTRN and need to own the big money tools and such that a larger shop has on hand for everybody. But way too much for my needs.

To be more specific on "slow and heavy beats small and fast", how about ".45ACP beats 9mm?"
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Well, I hope you enjoy the chest. It looks nice, I'd like to have a lower one like that instead of the tall one I have now. As for toolboxes- I have a couple of small boxes, one in each vehicle. Also a really cheap small chest that I inherited, out in the utility room, for the household stuff (hammer, basin wrench, the usual small crap for doing stuff around the house). My work box is still a work in progress. It started with the top box, and I added a rollaway, and just recently an intermediate chest with three drawers. It's almost as tall as I am, but my stuff takes a bit of space. "Etched and shadowed" is the rule. A pain in the ass, and it takes a bunch of room, but you know for SURE that no tools are left on the satellite at the end of the day. Everywhere I've worked in the last several years has said they provide tools, but they're such a motley, worn-out, incomplete bunch of trash that I basically browbeat the boss into letting me bring in my box. Would post (somewhat out-of-date) pics if I knew how, and if anyone was interested, but they aren't current. The next project is to update the logbook. Maybe after work tomorrow or Friday. I just like having my stuff organized, and I am very picky about who borrows my tools. Some of them are expensive, some are rare (a #2 Bristol spline "L" key which may be the only one in the state), all of them are MINE. There's a small sign on the front. "These are not your tools. Let's keep it that way."
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Odahi wrote:Well, I hope you enjoy the chest. It looks nice, I'd like to have a lower one like that instead of the tall one I have now...
I lost patience with my overflowing workbench a while ago, and got two chest-high Antonius drawer units from Ikea, plus matching plastic bins/drawers. I put casters on the bottom, and screwed two scrap chipboard panels to the top. I now have two cheap movable light storage units for my gunny stuff and tools. If I put them beside one another (they came with clips to keep two units together side-by-side), they make a decent worksurface for light duty, especially with a cheap angle-poise lamp clipped on one corner. I like being able to work standing up, rather then hunched over the lower (carpenter's) workbench.
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Denis, I'll definitely keep those in mind, I'll be needing some more workspace after a while.
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Frankingun wrote:Denis, I'll definitely keep those in mind, I'll be needing some more workspace after a while.
Glad to give you ideas! Don't expect them to be suitable for very heavy work or storage, though - the little frames are not exactly scaffolding. I put my gun vice on top, and use them for stripping and cleaning guns - I have all my patches and tools just below in the drawers, which is handy. Looking at the website, I see Ikea even sells the matching worktops.
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