Home defense in non-permissive environments...

[rightisright]

She's turned the fresh head and skin of a squirrel into a puppet, which she dressed in a particular fashion to be used to that effect.

Is it wrong that I laughed at that?

On a serious note, I'd push her toward some martial arts where real contact is involved.

There was a 5" 100# young lady in my Krav class a few years ago. She was great w. hitting the bags and mitts.

We did contact training for the second half of class every night. At the start, she was very timid and afraid to hit a real human. Our instructor intentionally kept pairing her w. me because I was the biggest guy in our class . After a few weeks of me smacking her around (of course I wasn't going full-contact w. her), she learned she needed fight to survive a real-life encounter. Bottom line, for a lot of people, self-defense is not innate.

[Aglifter]

We all thought it was hilarious, especially when she put it on my brother's shoulder, and hid behind him, to do her puppet show...

But, it bothered the city kids - and it started to bother me when she started going on about how squishy the brain was, when she put her finger in the head to work the "puppet"

[HTRN]

I hear that's a lot less common than it used to be. Getting soldiers to shoot, I mean.

That research that the Army did that I mentioned? Yeah, alot of also was of the idea that "Hey, if we only have 2% of the men natural born killers, what can we do with the other 98% to turn them from civilized people into killers?". One of the ways used was "desensitization" - IE using more realistic targets in training, to thus equate in the subconscious that the enemy wasn't a human being, but just another man shaped target like in basic.

[Netpackrat]

Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.

-Heraclitus

[workinwifdakids]

And you STILL have a hard time getting soldiers to actually use their weapons.

And even the ones who actually pull the trigger, may get 600 out of 600 on the range, but when it's an actual living breathing human being on the other end of a bullet, can't hit a damn thing.

A surprising number of men are like that... ones you wouldn't expect.

You guys might be interested in reading On Killing, by Grossman.

You beat me to it. He presented the problem by showing how every conflict from the Civil War up to Desert Storm had most men just pretending to fire, or intentionally missing by wild margins. He said there are several things the military is doing, or should do. One was encouraging first-person shooter video games. Another was shooting steel, so that the shot drops the target like in real life.

And back on target: it's not really a home situation, but it doesn't get much more non-permissive than a public K-12 school in suburban southern California. I already thought of the fire extinguisher. The problem is, many of these are attached to the campus-wide fire alarm system. So if it's an active shooter, you can't pull the thing out and be ready. Pulling it out activates the fire alarm, which will then send hundreds of children in orderly lines straight into the open for him, like herding lambs into a pen with a starving jaguar.

I'm down to an aluminum baseball bat, and prayer.

[randy]

And back on target: it's not really a home situation, but it doesn't get much more non-permissive than a public K-12 school in suburban southern California. I already thought of the fire extinguisher. The problem is, many of these are attached to the campus-wide fire alarm system. So if it's an active shooter, you can't pull the thing out and be ready. Pulling it out activates the fire alarm, which will then send hundreds of children in orderly lines straight into the open for him, like herding lambs into a pen with a starving jaguar.

I'm down to an aluminum baseball bat, and prayer.

And, I'm sure, the attitude that no one is going to touch "your" kids without fighting his way through you first.

How about getting your own fire extinguisher and keeping it under you desk? Because you have a phobia of fire and want to be ready (if anyone ever asks you). A lot less likely for GFW/Anti-defense admin type to jump to the correct conclusion than a ball bat (unless, of course, you also coach as a part of your duties).

[308Mike]

How about getting your own fire extinguisher and keeping it under you desk? Because you have a phobia of fire and want to be ready (if anyone ever asks you). A lot less likely for GFW/Anti-defense admin type to jump to the correct conclusion than a ball bat (unless, of course, you also coach as a part of your duties).

"Mr. Workin', WHY do you have a CANISTER-SIZED container of pepper-spray attached to the horn of your personal CO2 fire extinguisher under your desk??"

[workinwifdakids]

How about getting your own fire extinguisher and keeping it under you desk? Because you have a phobia of fire and want to be ready (if anyone ever asks you). A lot less likely for GFW/Anti-defense admin type to jump to the correct conclusion than a ball bat (unless, of course, you also coach as a part of your duties).

"Mr. Workin', WHY do you have a CANISTER-SIZED container of pepper-spray attached to the horn of your personal CO2 fire extinguisher under your desk??"

Yeah, no kidding. Actually, we have PE, so the bat is good to go. The quad 50 is a little harder to explain, but I'm a "live on the edge" sort of guy.

Oh, I almost forgot one of my favorite LawDog suggestions for self-defense in non-permissive environments: the combination lock in a sock. Basically, you have a combination lock, and a pair of socks, separately - in your carry on luggage, for example. Then if someone gets the stupids, you put the padlock in a sock, and swing it in the air like you just don't care...

[308Mike]

Yeah, no kidding. Actually, we have PE, so the bat is good to go.

Please clarify that PE does NOT equal Plastic Explosive, otherwise, I WANT TO COME WORK WITH YOU and your FELLOW EMPLOYEES WORKIN' WITH PE!!!

I LOVE workin' with EXPLOSIVES!!!

[blackeagle603]

:jacked:

had a young Pendleton Marine join us for dinner/BBQ last night. Just a couple months out of MCT at LeJuene.
"MOS?" asks I.
"Combat Engineer" says he.

Yeah, you guessed. Conversation went straight to talking demo. Rope charges. IED detection. Route clearance. Tracking.

BBQ and C4 talk on a Saturday night. What's not to like?