OK: Woman 2, thugs 0 after home invasion

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Re: OK: Woman 2, thugs 0 after home invasion

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FelixEstrella wrote:
workinwifdakids wrote:
FelixEstrella wrote:[victim-mode]Did she have to kill them? They only had a screwdriver ... sniff ....[/victim-mode]

Rock on maam!
Please, Felix, don't call her ma'am. She's an Endowment Member of the NRA. It's just that she's worked so, so hard for that title.
Yes ... ur ... Senator.
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Re: OK: Woman 2, thugs 0 after home invasion

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It's hard to have a handgun on you at all times around home but this reinforces the need for speed and ready access. This situations can develop rapidly. Coincidentally I had just ordered a couple of these elasticized handgun stashes for around the house. The price was right if they'll serve in the spots I have in mind.
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Re: OK: Woman 2, thugs 0 after home invasion

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blackeagle603 wrote:It's hard to have a handgun on you at all times around home ..............they'll serve in the spots I have in mind.
I used to think along the same lines - I still have firearms in "handy" locations around the house - but after reading time after time about violent break-ins I decided to carry as close to 24/7 as practical. I haven't yet reached the "paranoia point" of placing a firearm in/near the shower, but I may get there, (when I'm away my wife turns the alarm system on when showering).

I'll grant you that California is not the same as Kansas when it comes to Second Amendment rights, and I am no longer familiar with CA laws, but can you not carry in your home?
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Re: OK: Woman 2, thugs 0 after home invasion

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cu74 wrote:I'll grant you that California is not the same as Kansas when it comes to Second Amendment rights, and I am no longer familiar with CA laws, but can you not carry in your home?
You ABSOLUTELY can, concealed and not concealed. Plus this was the FIRST state to have ANYTHING nearing the Castle Law doctrine (but once the dhimmicraps got in charge, they killed anything expanding it to cover civil liability) - CA Penal Code Sections:
195. Homicide is excusable in the following cases:
1. When committed by accident and misfortune, or in doing any
other lawful act by lawful means, with usual and ordinary caution,
and without any unlawful intent.
2. When committed by accident and misfortune, in the heat of
passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or upon a sudden
combat, when no undue advantage is taken, nor any dangerous weapon
used, and when the killing is not done in a cruel or unusual manner.

196. Homicide is justifiable when committed by public officers and
those acting by their command in their aid and assistance, either--
1. In obedience to any judgment of a competent Court; or,
2. When necessarily committed in overcoming actual resistance to
the execution of some legal process, or in the discharge of any other
legal duty; or,
3. When necessarily committed in retaking felons who have been
rescued or have escaped, or when necessarily committed in arresting
persons charged with felony, and who are fleeing from justice or
resisting such arrest.

197. Homicide is also justifiable when committed by any person in
any of the following cases:
1. When resisting any attempt to murder any person, or to commit a
felony, or to do some great bodily injury upon any person; or,
2. When committed in defense of habitation, property, or person,
against one who manifestly intends or endeavors, by violence or
surprise, to commit a felony, or against one who manifestly intends
and endeavors, in a violent, riotous or tumultuous manner, to enter
the habitation of another for the purpose of offering violence to any
person therein; or,
3. When committed in the lawful defense of such person, or of a
wife or husband, parent, child, master, mistress, or servant of such
person, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design to
commit a felony or to do some great bodily injury, and imminent
danger of such design being accomplished; but such person, or the
person in whose behalf the defense was made, if he was the assailant
or engaged in mutual combat, must really and in good faith have
endeavored to decline any further struggle before the homicide was
committed; or,
4. When necessarily committed in attempting, by lawful ways and
means, to apprehend any person for any felony committed, or in
lawfully suppressing any riot, or in lawfully keeping and preserving
the peace.

198. A bare fear of the commission of any of the offenses mentioned
in subdivisions 2 and 3 of Section 197, to prevent which homicide
may be lawfully committed, is not sufficient to justify it. But the
circumstances must be sufficient to excite the fears of a reasonable
person, and the party killing must have acted under the influence of
such fears alone.

198.5. Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or
great bodily injury within his or her residence shall be presumed to
have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great
bodily injury to self, family, or a member of the household
when that
force is used against another person, not a member of the family or
household, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and
forcibly entered the residence
and the person using the force knew or
had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred.
As used in this section, great bodily injury means a significant
or substantial physical injury.

199. The homicide appearing to be justifiable or excusable, the
person indicted must, upon his trial, be fully acquitted and
discharged.
Now if they'd only carry over to the civil sections and make nuisance lawsuits against such people reimbursable in civil court..........
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Re: OK: Woman 2, thugs 0 after home invasion

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yes, you can carry in your home in CA. Thing is, it's CA so you may not be wearing much most of the year. That makes carry options limited. Life's tough being 9 months a year in flip-flops, gym shorts and tee-shirts. We have quite the open house, much of time with guests or groups in the house. Depending on warm season attire, CCW options are limited by presence of guests. Smartcarry is one that might work with modern baggy gym shorts. I might try that someday.

Also, personally I spend a lot of time on the floor daily stuff to keep my alignment improving and sciatica decreasing. I can't carry during much of that time. That's when handguns wind up stashed under and around things in the room.

I have a couple quick access boxes around that are secure for when guests/kids are in the house and I can't do unlock stashing/prepositioning of weapons.
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