First visit to the local gun club, and licencing info

[SoupOrMan]

Best of luck to you. The .22LR is a wonderful cartridge no matter what else you might shoot. After a lousy day with larger cartridges, shooting .22 can bring you back into good spirits.

[Erik]

Thanks.
Was there for the second time tonight. This time I used an old Baikal, and I could tell the difference.
I averaged between 40-45 points, and that's well over the 36 I need to get my shooters permit and be able to join the club. But it's still below the 46 I need to be able to get my own gun in six months, so I still need some improvement, but I got a few months to do it in.

[FastRope71]

I admire your good spirit in the face of bureaucracy. Keep at it, and in no time at all, you'll be able to get your very own Genuine 1911. Then, my good man, you will know you have arrived.

[Erik]

Thanks.
I'm actually allready counting down to my first 1911, even if it's going to be at least a year until I get there. I'm allready checking out different makes and models online. I'll be needing it for target competitions at 25metres and maybe even further out, so accuracy will be a big criteria. It has to be able to shoot a 50 at that distance if the shooter does his part.

But the first step is getting to the .22 license in six months time, and then finding a good .22 that will be accurate at 20 metres.
The good thing with the waiting time is that I'll have plenty of time to research different options...

[SeekHer]

May I suggest an Italian gunsmith whose work I just marvel at every time I see it...He specializes in race guns and IPSC, IDPA and Bullseye guns and does fantastic work...He's worked on my brothers' and nephews' guns, they reside in Switzerland and Israel and the guns are far more accurate then they'll ever be...

ADC Armi Dallera Custom, Roberto Dallera gunsmith extraordinaire! – Music Warning

Do you know what the regulations about sending or buying guns or services out of your country? I'm almost sure he does so contact him for prices and turnaround times...

It may be better to buy your gun from him now and have him service it and you would get it in time for when your licence comes through as I knew he had a 6 to 9 month waiting time last year.

[Erik]

Thanks for the link!

I found a link on a local forum from someone that had imported guns from the US before. It can be done through a gunstore, or on your own through a european organisation that acts as a dealer, if you do all the paperwork yourself. It's usually a bit cheaper that way, but it still adds around 50% to the price of the gun in the US, with shipping, taxes and fees.
I believe I'll need a license and all other permits before I can even start the process.

No idea about the rules within europe, technically I believe there shouldn't be any taxes added within the EU, but I'm used to the customs interpreting the rules the way they like it. But I'll definitelly check it out.

Thanks you

[mekender]

I would expect that importing from the US to you would be way more expensive than getting the same exact gun from a dealer in EU....

Unless it is an American MADE gun, you shouldn't have many problems... Note that I said MADE because many American companies make their guns outside the US. So there are international divisions of those companies that supply guns that never cross into US territory. Beretta, Glock, CZ, FN, Taurus, Walther and others all have plants in europe. Hell, they even offer guns in europe that we cant get here...

Best bet is to probably start scouring the web for forums in your country. And then humbly start asking questions.

What country are you in if you dont mind me asking?

[Erik]

Yes, that's pretty much the truth.
When importing from the US, you have to add shipping and fees, and then a 25% sales tax on top of that, and that roughly adds around 50% to the price in the US.
I got that information from a swedish forum, from someone that has done it a few times.

I checked local gunstores here in Sweden, and compared prices, and it's usually not worth it to import on your own, unless it's something you cant find here, or it's something really high-end. Usually if you want something special, the gunstores will import it for you, and unless it's something you can find a cheaper deal for on your own, you wont save much.

To give an example of the prices here, I found a Colt Gold Cup National Match in a store not that far from where I live, the price is set to around US$1500 (current currency conv.)

Ofcourse it's different with european made guns, then you can import them from the country where they're made, but I think the paperwork and rules are pretty much the same. Except I shouldn't have to add taxes for something bought within the EU, it should allready be taxed in the country of origin.

As for .22 target pistols, most people here seem to favor Morini, Hammerli and Baikal. Price example: a brand new Hammerli X-esse costs around US$1000 here, depending on model. (The sport model with anatomic grip is around US$1300)

[mekender]

so you are in Sweden?

I need someone with language skills.

[Erik]

Yes.
Any specific language? I speak a few different languages, but I'm a bit out of practice now. Language skills fade fast if they're not used.