Lipstick on a pig?

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Re: Lipstick on a pig?

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Whirlibird wrote:Actually the 88 wasn't such a bad rifle (carbine). While the swinging trigger was an abomination, and next to impossible to adjust out the slack and mush, the rest of the rifle was
actually a very decent piece.
That's not exactly a glowing recommendation. It's almost impossible for me to get decent groups using a rifle with a poor trigger. I think the trigger is a bigger reason the rifle was unsuccessful rather than the oddball calibers.
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D5CAV wrote:
I would be very interested in hearing how the work turns out. The quote I got for putting claw mounts on my double rifle from a well known smith was well over twice this amount. NECG will have another customer if they do good work for you.
I only sent them that e-mail to find out prices, for you...I have some drilling and Vierlings that could use the claw mounts but the collectors value would drop significantly--plummet actually--if I mounted them to any of the guns...

I know their work having fixed a few things for me over the years and it is excellent and the quality hasn’t dropped from what has been written up about them in recent years in a number of journals…
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D5CAV wrote:
Whirlibird wrote:Actually the 88 wasn't such a bad rifle (carbine). While the swinging trigger was an abomination, and next to impossible to adjust out the slack and mush, the rest of the rifle was
actually a very decent piece.
That's not exactly a glowing recommendation. It's almost impossible for me to get decent groups using a rifle with a poor trigger. I think the trigger is a bigger reason the rifle was unsuccessful rather than the oddball calibers.
Here's a swinging trigger if ever there was one. By JMB (pbuh) hisself. The 1895 Winchester. Not a bad pull BTW.
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A friend hunted with a Model 88 .308 when I was a teenager.

It was a nice handling piece
almost felt like a carbine,
grouped real well,
had a pre-64 Win sensibility to the stock (a particular weakness of mine),
had a detachable box mag.

The solid action and box mag allowed it to shoot a modern high pressure long range cartridge with spitzers and was handy for easy load/unload getting in/out of hunting rigs in a hurry. Even better (dare I say it -- call me a heretic) better overall system than a Savage 99.

In short -- I coveted it.
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SeekHer wrote:
D5CAV wrote:
I would be very interested in hearing how the work turns out. The quote I got for putting claw mounts on my double rifle from a well known smith was well over twice this amount. NECG will have another customer if they do good work for you.
I only sent them that e-mail to find out prices, for you...I have some drilling and Vierlings that could use the claw mounts but the collectors value would drop significantly--plummet actually--if I mounted them to any of the guns...

I know their work having fixed a few things for me over the years and it is excellent and the quality hasn’t dropped from what has been written up about them in recent years in a number of journals…
I'll check them out for the DR.

I have the opposite problem on my other guns. I have a drilling, a vierling and a few old German bolt actions that could really use some claw mounts, but the guns aren't worth the investment. I thought about it again after I saw the new, discounted price, but even at $1200, it doesn't make sense.
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DwightG wrote:Here's a swinging trigger if ever there was one. By JMB (pbuh) hisself. The 1895 Winchester. Not a bad pull BTW.
Another rifle I've never shot. The only lever action I own is a Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70. I would also categorize that trigger (after some work -- what came NIB was a pretty mushy trigger) as "not a bad pull", but certainly not in the league of my other rifles (bolt action & semi-auto). That rifle is a 0 to 100m rifle for me, so I don't try to get groups at 200m or 300m. My issue with lever action rifles is more with the manual of arms than anything else.

I'm envious of all you guys who can shoot well with "mushy, hard to adjust" triggers and "not a bad pull" triggers. To think of all the money I spent on trigger jobs to get to "crisp" and "icicle-like" triggers. I could have saved a lot of $$$s if I had that ability!
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D5CAV wrote:
DwightG wrote:

I'm envious of all you guys who can shoot well with "mushy, hard to adjust" triggers and "not a bad pull" triggers.
I usta could anyway (the double set trigger on my flintlock may have ruined me) and I always attributed it to the fact that the first high powered rifle I ever fired much was Dad's bring-back Type 99 Arisaka. Think gravel road with a few washboards for a trigger pull. Compounded with heavy recoil and a hard butt plate for this then 12 year old. Definitely forced me to concentrate.
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