I can live with that. Add a proviso that their staffs have to leave government service for at least one term before applying to work for another congresscritter.g-man wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:33 pmNah, if 2 terms is good enough for the Pres, Congress can live by the same rules. Also, no retirement. Pay them well enough that they can afford to stop doing whatever they're doing and serve (assuming we're talking about returning to citizen leadership from the 18th century, vice the completely 'professional politician' sort of folks there now), and then they're out.
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...even before I read MHI, my response to seeing a poster for the stars of the latest Twilight movies was "I see 2 targets and a collaborator".
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I agree except on pay/retirement. Pay them well and give them a good retirement plan, but they lose every cent if they are convicted of anything, forced to resign, fired, etc. Give them a lot of incentive to be above board and little reason to be corrupt.g-man wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:33 pmNah, if 2 terms is good enough for the Pres, Congress can live by the same rules. Also, no retirement. Pay them well enough that they can afford to stop doing whatever they're doing and serve (assuming we're talking about returning to citizen leadership from the 18th century, vice the completely 'professional politician' sort of folks there now), and then they're out.
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In my fictional Republic of Texas, one of the things that I kept from the ‘real’ Texas is that the Congress only meets for six months every two years, except for certain oversight committees, with the President able to call special sessions as needed. So Congresscritters still have to have real jobs.
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I can get onboard with that. Less incentive to be shady if you know you're only going to have to work for 2 terms and then can draw a check.Vonz90 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:24 pmI agree except on pay/retirement. Pay them well and give them a good retirement plan, but they lose every cent if they are convicted of anything, forced to resign, fired, etc. Give them a lot of incentive to be above board and little reason to be corrupt.g-man wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:33 pmNah, if 2 terms is good enough for the Pres, Congress can live by the same rules. Also, no retirement. Pay them well enough that they can afford to stop doing whatever they're doing and serve (assuming we're talking about returning to citizen leadership from the 18th century, vice the completely 'professional politician' sort of folks there now), and then they're out.
A guy can wish, can't he?
This is one of the things I LOVE about TX.Captain Wheelgun wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:14 pm In my fictional Republic of Texas, one of the things that I kept from the ‘real’ Texas is that the Congress only meets for six months every two years, except for certain oversight committees, with the President able to call special sessions as needed. So Congresscritters still have to have real jobs.
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This!!! Meeting time and wasted energy expands to fill the time allotted.Captain Wheelgun wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:14 am
In my fictional Republic of Texas, one of the things that I kept from the ‘real’ Texas is that the Congress only meets for six months every two years, except for certain oversight committees, with the President able to call special sessions as needed. So Congresscritters still have to have real jobs.
This is one of the things I LOVE about TX.
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So let them die. I find drugs personally extremely distasteful, but IMO once you open the door to the notion that 'we here have all decided that we need to take away your freedom for your own good' then the treatment is more damaging than the disease.Vonz90 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:14 pm https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-dru ... rt-tragedy
I lean very libertarian, but not so much relative to drugs. The issue being that for liberty to work requires people to be rational actors and drug addicts are not that.
Note I make the distinction 'for your own good'... if you're an actual danger to others than those others have the right to take action in their own defense.
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It is not them I care about, it is everything they impact.Greg wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:45 amSo let them die. I find drugs personally extremely distasteful, but IMO once you open the door to the notion that 'we here have all decided that we need to take away your freedom for your own good' then the treatment is more damaging than the disease.Vonz90 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:14 pm https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-dru ... rt-tragedy
I lean very libertarian, but not so much relative to drugs. The issue being that for liberty to work requires people to be rational actors and drug addicts are not that.
Note I make the distinction 'for your own good'... if you're an actual danger to others than those others have the right to take action in their own defense.
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There is an exact parallel here with Democrats and gun laws.Vonz90 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:04 pmIt is not them I care about, it is everything they impact.Greg wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:45 amSo let them die. I find drugs personally extremely distasteful, but IMO once you open the door to the notion that 'we here have all decided that we need to take away your freedom for your own good' then the treatment is more damaging than the disease.Vonz90 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:14 pm https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-dru ... rt-tragedy
I lean very libertarian, but not so much relative to drugs. The issue being that for liberty to work requires people to be rational actors and drug addicts are not that.
Note I make the distinction 'for your own good'... if you're an actual danger to others than those others have the right to take action in their own defense.
Everything they do to cause that impact is already illegal. Start there.
See also Prohibition.
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