Someone had a boating accident!

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JustinR
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Someone had a boating accident!

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My wife is a volunteer for the Texas Parks and Wildlife Master Naturalist program, and enjoys educating grade school kids as part of her volunteer hours. She was down in the creek by our house, part of the watershed that goes into Lake Lavon, casting animal tracks in the mud in plaster to use in her class, and happened across a stock sticking out of the mud. We had some epic flooding this last year, and the entire area she was walking in has been underwater several times this last year. So, like a good wifey, she calls me and I go down to help her with the tracks and look at the gun.

It's a Browning Citori O/U, that has clearly been there for a while. It took a second for me to break open the action and verify it wasn't loaded, and the lockup on the gun was so tight there were areas that hadn't rusted (as visible in some of my poor phone pictures.) I cleaned the mud off and found the serial number, which according to Browning's and the NRA museum's web sites say it's a 1981 20 GA skeet gun, grade I. I'd love to try and restore this thing. I think the action is probably salvageable, although the barrels are probably too weakened to be safe. The forearm wood can probably be restored, but the stock has a crack most of the way through the wrist and will have to be replaced.

From what I've found through some research, there's no way for non-LEO's to conduct an NCIC search to see if it's been reported lost or stolen, so tomorrow I'm going to call the county sheriff's office to see about bringing it in to them so they can run the check. If it hasn't been listed as lost or stolen, I have a feeling it will sit in an evidence locker for 6 months waiting for someone to claim it, and even after that I don't know if they'll let me take it back. :(

In the experience of the LEO's here, is there any potential reason I need to talk to a lawyer before calling the Sheriff's office? I doubt they're going to give me any grief over trying to do the right thing here, but I thought I'd ask for input.
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Re: Someone had a boating accident!

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Anyone? Bueler?
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Just so you know everyone's not ignoring your thread...

I don't know anything about restoring something like that, but it sounds like a fun project.

As for the legal thing... how comfortable are you with being somewhat disingenuous? "Mr. LEO, I have a line on an old shotgun, privately available, but I'd like to see if you can run the number to make sure everything's kosher." Not lying, but not fully disclosing.

Although, if the number comes up, then you're going to have to disclose the story. All in all, I'd think I'd do some clean up work to verify for yourself whether it's worth restoring, then find a friendly and sympathetic LEO to run the check if it is. If it's not worth restoring, I'd junk it without much ceremony.

BDK might have some thoughts as he's a legal type and from Texas.
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My biggest concern is that I've already disturbed it, rinsed the mud off, and sprayed it in Breakfree to try and slow the progression of rust. If I go to town on pulling the rust off, and it comes back as stolen or heaven forbid part of an active investigation, the last thing I want to deal with is being accused of tampering with evidence, despite the fact it had obviously been there for some time, and the likelihood of getting DNA or fingerprints from it was basically nil to begin with.

I guess the problem is that I don't personally know a local "gun-friendly" LEO. Blah. Last thing I want to do is give money to a lawyer, but I may have to.
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Some poor dude over on the blackout forum recently had his Omega get loose, and fly off the front of his rifle into a raging creek. :shock:
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Don't know if it's still the case, but you used to be able to run serial numbers as a "test" on the system, and if it came up hot, you didn't kick in the automatic reaction from everybody and his mother. Might check with a friendly LEO, and find out if they can still do that. (I've had them do it for me a couple times in the past, but not within the last 8-10 years.)
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I'd ask your local boys about it. As I understand our law (and Texas is probably different), in the case of found property, if it's not claimed in some reasonable amount of time, it belongs to the person who found it.

So, the thing to do is get the local agency to run the check. They'll probably do that and hand it back to you. If they need to keep it for some reason, get a receipt for it. After 90 days, go back and get your gun.

One caution: If it was found in a small rural county, run it there. It's a whole lot easier to keep track of such things, and it was probably lost locally. If you found it in County X, and you take it to County Y, there might be a problem.
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I wouldn't do anything more to it until you determine it's status. Everything done so far can be explained away as making sure it didn't contain live rounds.
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Couple of scotch-brite pads and that'll just rub right out.
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Trow it in da wash. It'll be grand!
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