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BDK wrote:That's surprising. I know quite a few folks who've hunted Aregentina wo issue, but they weren't taking double rifles. (I know fellows w doubles that have had problems just getting them back through NYC customs)
Double shotguns. Like a matched pair of Holland & Holland Side Lock Ejectors in 12 bore.

http://www.hollandandholland.com/guns_c ... e&l=london

Double rifles are a little much for shooting dove in Argentina, but perhaps a little DR in .375 H&H flanged might be quick enough if you are quick enough. Might have some issues with .375 slugs raining down on the estancia. Might want to check with your outfitter before your bring a DR on a dove shoot.
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Steamforger wrote:A local guy here in Ft. Peck has a 1964 Remington 700 BDL in stainless and 7mm with a Redfield scope and approx. 50 rounds to go with it. It is, by all accounts, in great shape, and was when Remington cared about QC, and is decently local in a Montana sense. It will handle damn near everything in Montana.

He's asking $600. Can get the number if you like.
Good rifle and good deal.

7mm Rem Mag is a fine cartridge, and Remington 700 BDL used to be a great rifle before they started with the pressed-in checkering.
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D5CAV wrote:
BDK wrote:Former French colonies prohibit 308 and 30-06, and I think some Latin countries. Military calibers are prohibited in pistols in much of Latin America.
Those would be some real corner cases.

I'm trying to think of former French colonies in Africa that allow hunting. I think Cameroon was a German colony that became French after WW1. The only reason to go there is to hunt bongo antelope; a hunt that would make a lion hunt in Tanzania look cheap in comparison. I don't remember what my friends used on their hunts, but for what they spent, they could buy a dedicated rifle for the hunt, leave it with the outfitter, and it would represent a small tip on top of all the other tips they passed out.

As for Latin America, I've been invited by friends to hunt in Mexico. They told me they hadn't been to their properties in a few years because of the danger of narco-terrorists in those areas, but "they heard it was better now." I said I'd think about it.

When I asked about what weapons I could bring, they told me to forget about it. They had plenty of appropriate weapons to loan me. They said that, even with their political connections, getting permits to bring rifles into Mexico was too much of a PITA.

The only other Latin America country I've hunted is Argentina, and that was paying an exorbitant amount of money to provide pest control services to Argentinian farmers. Really. It's as if someone organized hunts for crazy Chinese to hunt rats in New York City sewers and charged them $10k plus $10 per rat.

After I commented on the wanton slaughter that occurred that day, I was told by one of our hosts, in a moment of rare candor, and perhaps a little too much Argentinian wine, that he figures he loses between 10% and 20% of his crop every year to doves. He said we barely made a dent in the population. He bemoaned the greediness of the hunting outfitters who charged us "too much" for the dove hunts, and that lower prices would attract more shooters.

Oh yeah. Guns in Argentina. I really don't know. Two of the other shooters in the group were experienced hands in Argentina, like for the past 30 years or so. One of them had a pair of doubles disappear in transit. The other had a nice pair of English doubles stuck in customs in Argentina for almost 20 years, presumably until the customs official who lusted for them either died or retired. He did get them back, eventually. Needless to say, they strongly recommended I use the "house guns."

The outfitters had plenty of well used Beretta and Benelli autos that were a testament to their construction. We put thousands of rounds of filthy Argentinian 20ga and 12ga ammo through them, and they kept on ticking.
Spent a bit of time in Argentina and yup, you can get the farmers to put you up and supply shotguns although the ammo you need to import though . My friends import pallets of 12 gauge, yup pallets of 12 gauge, to shoot doves , birds are not my thing but they think its awsome.
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Yeah, for those unfamiliar with it, South American Dove shooting volume has to be seen to be believed - killing north of a thousand birds in a trip is pretty run of the mill..
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What do they do with all the birds?
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And back on topic, I'm feeling the siren call of a Savage 11 in .308 or .30-06 with the AccuTrigger and a Nikon scope. They're on sale at Bass Pro for $455, IIRC, until the end of November. I have an old Savage .22 with a beautiful trigger.

But I only hunt deer in the black powder season. :lol: Maybe this would get me out in the regular season.
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Weetabix wrote:What do they do with all the birds?
Marinate in red wine, wrap in bacon, and grill them. Yummy, and you'd need a thousand with my greedy hands in the pile.
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Checked the ad again today. 1962 model with a stainless barrel. Redfield Widefield is 3-9x.
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A pre-"who-gives-sh!t-about-quality" action with an aftermarket stainless barrel? Yogi, if you don't want it, I might.
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There were some factory 700s with stainless barrels and blued actions. A buddy had one in .300 Winmag.
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