10 Ways that JJ Abrams Ruined Star Trek

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Re: 10 Ways that JJ Abrams Ruined Star Trek

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Aesop wrote:Heath Ledger is hopefully being butt-f***** in Hell for that version of "Four Feathers".
It's dead to me, but it does make me relish him getting skewered every time I see The Patriot, when I briefly root for Lucius Malfoy.

One can either watch the Ralph Richardson version, or the very splendid TV version with Beau Bridges and the always watchable Jane Seymour at age 26. As a bonus, it rather exactly follows the novel, unlike the 2002 Al Qaeda version of the story, with Ledger.
1939 version with Ralph Richardson and the luscious June Duprez is the best, with the Beau Bridges/Jane Seymour just second enough to avoid a tie. The 1955 version, Storm Over the Nile was such a tepid remake I don't understand why Zoltan Korda even bothered. Mary Ure was as beautiful as Kate Hudson but everyone seemed to be sleepwalking in the same trance as the director.

So Shekhar Kapur wanted to make a movie about the Mahdi? Why didn't he do an original story, then, rather than messing with "The Four Feathers", raising (and dashing) expectations of people who appreciate a good romance story about love and duty? Clearly he has no clue what the original story was about, so when it came to translating it to the big screen he came up short.
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What was wrong with the HL version of "4 Feathers" (besides Heath Ledger)?

...and wow, this thread must've been pulling warp 9 and slingshot around the sun, cause we went from talking about fiction set in the future to fiction set in the past.
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I have not seen it but from what I understand they changed the outcome of the finial battle to better fit the world view of those producing the movie. I imagine there were other changes as well.
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This is making me want to dig my copy of the HL version out and rewatch it. And maybe I should rewatch the one with the bad accents; I'll remember it this time.

Back to Star Trek, how the fuck did someone hoodwink Kate Mulgrew into narrating a documentary espousing an earth-centric universe?
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dfwmtx wrote:What was wrong with the HL version of "4 Feathers" (besides Heath Ledger)?

...and wow, this thread must've been pulling warp 9 and slingshot around the sun, cause we went from talking about fiction set in the future to fiction set in the past.
Well, nothing really, it was just another anti-colonial film that was wrapped in the trappings of a classic story of love, honor and duty, three concepts the anti colonialists and leftists couldn't recognize with two forms of picture ID, two eyewitnesses in court under oath, and a forensic workup of the dental records.

It had good cinematography, though.
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dfwmtx wrote:and British accents worthy of "Upper Class Twit of the Year" awards.
Amusingly enough the speakers of those accents at least had the advantage (disadvantage?) of having been born to them (or something approximating them). C. Aubrey Smith certainly made a name for himself as the stereotypical tall, Officer-and-gentleman, stiff upper lip and stern determination Englishman, didn't he?
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I dunno about anyone else, but for me, that's hands-down the easiest accent to imitate. :?
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Jericho941 wrote:I dunno about anyone else, but for me, that's hands-down the easiest accent to imitate. :?
"Unlike the other Robin Hoods, I speak with an English accent."
I think mine is more convincing than my nonspecific "southern"accent. :?
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dfwmtx wrote: Back to Star Trek, how the fuck did someone hoodwink Kate Mulgrew into narrating a documentary espousing an earth-centric universe?
No one said that actors had to be smart. :lol:
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dfwmtx wrote:What was wrong with the HL version of "4 Feathers" (besides Heath Ledger)?

...and wow, this thread must've been pulling warp 9 and slingshot around the sun, cause we went from talking about fiction set in the future to fiction set in the past.
The Al Queda sympathizer who shot it wanted the wogs to win in the end, so that's how he shot it.
We've seen this sort of thing before, cf. Paul Verhoeven's bufu'ed version of Starship F-Troopers.

Nothing better for rogering a movie espousing pro-Western values and ethos than handing it to someone who loathes Western civilization, and is willing to use the film to masturbate to his own ego chorus.
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