Erik wrote:Without the illegal drugs and pawning the tools, that's pretty close to a lot of people I've known here. They constantly make bad economic decisions and then complain that they are broke and have no money and that it's not their fault, it's just bad luck, and if they just got a little help everything would work out for them.
I used to actually help them out, thinking that they would learn from their experience and would make better decisions in the future ("teach a man to fish" and all that), but I learned that:
1. They wont learn anything, they are convinced whatever didn't work the last times will work next time.
2. They will consider you obligated to help them out next time, because you helped them the last times, and they'll get upset if you don't.
3. They will despise you for having a better financial situation than they do.
Nowadays I stay away from people like that as much as possible, and I never offer them any advice or help, I just listen to them complain about that bad luck of theirs...
One good thing with the shooting community here is that the laws and jumping through hoops to get a gun license tends to weed out a lot of those people.
Around here, they also complain about a 1 1/2 hour bus ride, round trip, to get to work. If you take one home, once, just to be nice, they expect it every time and are very aggressive about asking (insisting). I had to fire one guy for harassment because one of the regular warehouse employees (girl) gave him a lift home one time. When she couldn't/wasn't willing to be his personal taxi, he made a big deal of it….to the point where I warned him, then had him escorted off the premises.
There must be an end to this intimidation by those who come to this great country, but reject its culture.
MarkD wrote:if you can't get laid at a Mensa party you can't get laid at a legal brothel in Nevada with ten thousand dollars cash spending money you're not allowed to take from the premises.
Interesting. I never would have guessed that. Or is it a case of the odds being good, but the goods being odd?
Geeks are freaks man. Its so well known that its been studied and researched a academically.
The SCA even more so. So much so in fact that there's a famous fill song "if you can't get laid in the SCA you might as well go on home".
Same thing for any geek con.. They are well known as damn near 3 day orgies for a reason.
Same thing with musicians who, in school programs at least, often overlap with the high IQ thing. That whole, "this one time at band camp" schtick? That was practically autobiographical, man. The schtick fit more often than not.
There must be an end to this intimidation by those who come to this great country, but reject its culture.
Nature doesn't necessarily favor the book-smart. This is why Mensa members don't breed well in captivity nor produce a thriving tribe-race of ubermen, and why Beechcrafts rather ruthlessly weed arrogant doctors and lawyers out of the gene pool.
Word. One must not confuse IQ for wisdom. Life wisdom, business wisdom, personal finance wisdom, etc.
...and for each one who can make a pun based on knowledge of a medieval instrument, there's at least one who ignored lessons from the Greeks and completely misses the fact that his hubris is his own nemesis.
"The Guncounter: More fun than a barrel of tattooed knife-fighting chain-smoking monkey butlers with drinking problems and excessive gambling debts!"
"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic;" Justice Story
MarkD wrote:if you can't get laid at a Mensa party you can't get laid at a legal brothel in Nevada with ten thousand dollars cash spending money you're not allowed to take from the premises.
Interesting. I never would have guessed that. Or is it a case of the odds being good, but the goods being odd?
Geeks are freaks man. Its so well known that its been studied and researched a academically.
The SCA even more so. So much so in fact that there's a famous fill song "if you can't get laid in the SCA you might as well go on home".
Same thing for any geek con.. They are well known as damn near 3 day orgies for a reason.
Dorm I lived in for a while, had an annual tradition of a multi-day party that it was famous for. One year the band that played the party was Nirvana. Yes, that Nirvana. Anyway, the first night of the party, always, the basement of the dorm had a large room set aside (and completely paved in mattresses) for the orgy.
Maybe we're just jaded, but your villainy is not particularly impressive. -Ennesby
If you know what you're doing, you're not learning anything. -Unknown
Sanity is the process by which you continually adjust your beliefs so they are predictively sound. -esr
Aesop wrote:I knew a student who asked a statistics professor if anyone could actually exist with an IQ of zero, and the prof, a humble amateur philosopher, replied "I don't know. I haven't met everyone yet."
That person would probably be practicing law in the state of Louisiana.
JKosprey wrote:I have to catch myself using vocabulary words that people usually only see in writing, or people assume I'm a pretentious asshole...
I get that a lot, too, especially if I've recently been reading books written before, say, 1780.
Interesting thing is, my kids get that as well. I've never spoken to them like children, so they have pretty large vocabularies. Their friends frequently give them bovine looks and say, "You use such big words..." My favorite was when my daughter's friend accused her of using big words when the word was... "apt."
Note to self: start reading sig lines. They're actually quite amusing. :D
A corollary to this conversation , some very bright people have interesting careers. Many carpenters and plumbers have advanced degrees and are freaky smart and do not want to participate in the white color job market. Its easier fo them to deal with a blue color environment , often wondered if they view some of their coworkers as pets.
In serving the general public ( in my business) I have meet some frighteningly mentally challenged individuals , I really don't know how they survive, and they vote.
arctictom wrote:A corollary to this conversation , some very bright people have interesting careers. Many carpenters and plumbers have advanced degrees and are freaky smart and do not want to participate in the white color job market. Its easier fo them to deal with a blue color environment , often wondered if they view some of their coworkers as pets.
In serving the general public ( in my business) I have meet some frighteningly mentally challenged individuals , I really don't know how they survive, and they vote.
True. I know a carpenter and plumber with a master's degree. Same thing. As for the other end of the spectrum, these people also manage to get and pay mortgages and car notes. That also amazes me.
There must be an end to this intimidation by those who come to this great country, but reject its culture.
