Overinvesting In The Young

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Overinvesting In The Young

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by David L. Odom

When American congregations hear “overinvest in the young,” they frequently think of stretching the budget to hire a full-time youth minister or find some other way spend more money on high school students.

Unfortunately, youth ministries are often segregated from the rest of the church. Pouring money into a typical youth program can result in young people being more lavishly entertained and, at the same time, more isolated.

“Overinvesting” means including the young in all of the life-giving dimensions of the community. If worship is at the heart of the community, how can the church engage youth more deeply in corporate worship? If service is at the heart of the community, how can the leaders engage in service alongside the young people?

During the economic challenges following 2008, a friend’s church decided to eliminate the vacant part-time youth minister position. Each of the three ministers accepted responsibility for guiding part of the ministry.

My friend is a 57-year-old pastor. He started teaching the mid-week youth Bible study in his home. He got excited by the questions the teenagers asked. The crowd doubled to 40 as he engaged their questions from scripture. The pastor feels renewed, and the youth are bringing their friends to the discussions.

Overinvesting begins with service, not sales. Where are the great needs in your community? What can you do to respond?

I visited with the leaders of a small membership, mainline congregation last month after they discovered that 100 children in the elementary school next door receive free lunches. The principal said that some of these kids were very hungry after a weekend at home. The church started a “backpack” program to send food each Friday with 20 of the children. They opened up a food pantry and are seeking partners to scale these resources to meet more of the needs of these children and their families.

“Overinvesting” means giving yourself away.

The focus on the young, especially the marginalized young people, should change us and our institutions. It is a growth strategy, not in terms of adding number to the attendance count, but in terms of transforming one’s attitude.

How are you truly investing in future generations in your congregation?
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First Thought: What in the flip flying fuck do these parents do with their public assistance money/food stamps? :?

Read the whole article and feel free to give comments. There are some very good things in here, IMO.
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Does anyone else know that 'overinvest' means 'to invest too much'? As in, to invest more than something is worth....
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how can the church engage youth more deeply in corporate worship?
The Great Chain?
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The military "overinvests" in the young ALL THE TIME, and they have TREMENDOUS SUCCESS!! When I was in my early 20's, I was responsible for a $4 MILLION (at that time) aircraft, that aircraft being a CH-46D Sea Knight (we were just looking to get the Echo models in my squadron) helicopter. I knew LOTS of other enlisted marines who were responsible for Hueys, Sea Stallions (CH-53's), Cobras, AV8B Harriers, even older Phantoms, Skyhawks, etc., etc.

I've also seen ADULTS and OLDER ADULTS who couldn't be trusted to run a cash register, fill a written order from a warehouse accurately, count change, COMPETENTLY DRIVE A VEHICLE (and I'm NOT talking about the ELDERLY, I mean people in their mid 20's to late 30's)!!

I know PRE-TEENS who are more honest and trustworthy than many adults (I also know the opposite).

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I visited with the leaders of a small membership, mainline congregation last month after they discovered that 100 children in the elementary school next door receive free lunches. The principal said that some of these kids were very hungry after a weekend at home. The church started a “backpack” program to send food each Friday with 20 of the children. They opened up a food pantry and are seeking partners to scale these resources to meet more of the needs of these children and their families.
No comment on this? Despite the assistance these parents are undoubtedly receiving, the school is still feeding their kids through the week and they can't even keep them fed on the weekend?
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Pointing out a problem, and providing a workable solution for that problem are two entirely different things. I understand that there is a HUGE black market for trading EBT funds for cash, drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, etc., but can YOU starve the kids because the parents are meth-heads? If you aren't willing to pull the trigger, don't push for an execution.

Looks like the church is doing what it can, where it can, with what it has, to make the best of a bad situation.

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Greg wrote:Does anyone else know that 'overinvest' means 'to invest too much'? As in, to invest more than something is worth....
Yeah, that was my initial response. I don't think that word means what he thinks it means.

Maybe "Hyperinvesting" better suits the message the author is trying to pass? "Focused Investing"?
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First Shirt wrote:Pointing out a problem, and providing a workable solution for that problem are two entirely different things. I understand that there is a HUGE black market for trading EBT funds for cash, drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, etc., but can YOU starve the kids because the parents are meth-heads? If you aren't willing to pull the trigger, don't push for an execution.

Looks like the church is doing what it can, where it can, with what it has, to make the best of a bad situation.

Answers? I got nothin'.
Yes sir, I agree. But where does it end, as it inevitably must?
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A local group around here did the backpack for the weekend thing. The backpacks were to be brought back on Monday for a refill the next weekend. Over about a month, all the backpacks were "lost". A little investigation turned up the back packs with and without contents were also being sold as another income source. Most of the kids only got to eat what they ate on the way home.

Many were punished for doing that as the group thoughtfully included a list of items and simple reheat / cooking directions.

It is bad for the kids, but my answer is "Let it burn".
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In the same way that Connie and Kim wrote, "Let Africa Sink." I see your point.
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