(Probably not a) Shotgun Blast To The Face - NASTY

[Fivetoes]

I think his teeth, top jaw is in too good of shape to have taken a face first plant, or a shotgun blast. I would expect them to have been shattered. Kind of looks like something cleaved his head, ear to ear or a bit more diagonal.

[Yogimus]

I think he landed temple 1st

[Darrell]

There was a police FLIR vid on the web a year or two ago, I might have linked it here--cops were chasing a bad guy through a neighborhood at night, with a police chopper watching overhead. The bad guy was carrying a shotgun. He decided to quit running, then pointed the shotgun at his own head and pulled the trigger. It pretty much removed his head.

[skb12172]

Years ago when I was in the Academy, we watched a training video about a cop in (I think) Florida. He was doing paperwork in his car, when a local scumbag fired a single 12 gauge round to his face from a distance of about 3 feet. He survived, but from what we saw, killing him would have been more merciful...

[Termite]

Maybe he chewed on a blasting cap.

Check the rest of the torso for injuries. It looked like the skull split diagonally and slid apart, tearing as it went, consistent with a forceful impact. The damage to both hands and forearms means it was not confined to the head, which leads me to believe jump, or POSSIBLY a high speed accident. The "splat" behind him makes me go with jump.

EDIT: Blood on the shirt but not on the pants means the blood is from laying in a pool of it, not from the initial trauma. (pants get covered every time the person is standing)

You may be an asshole, but you're good at your job.

[skb12172]

Maybe he chewed on a blasting cap.

Check the rest of the torso for injuries. It looked like the skull split diagonally and slid apart, tearing as it went, consistent with a forceful impact. The damage to both hands and forearms means it was not confined to the head, which leads me to believe jump, or POSSIBLY a high speed accident. The "splat" behind him makes me go with jump.

EDIT: Blood on the shirt but not on the pants means the blood is from laying in a pool of it, not from the initial trauma. (pants get covered every time the person is standing)

You may be an asshole, but you're good at your job.

S'OK, at least he's OUR asshole!

[doc Russia]

I disagree.
I think that this was a street execution with a long arm which delivered a shot to the victims right temple.
That bruising on the arm is just dirt, I think. I do not see the deformities and swelling of the forearms that is mentioned. The angle of the camera causes that shape, but this looks completely normal to me. I see no other signs of obvious injury. Which is not what happens when somebody has fallen from the kind of height which could make a skull pop like that. It is also what happens when you have an auto vs. pedestrian impact. I have seen them come into the ER, and they are fifteen kinds of screwed up.
The reason the blood is not on the pants is because, after sustaining that kind of an injury, this guy immediately went horizontal and the blood did not have time to migrate down to his pants.
I have seen all kinds of trauma; car accidents, shootings, stabbings, drownings, falls, hangings, crush injuries. Now, it is possible that I am wrong here (it's not like I have the body to perform an autopsy on), but unless someone points out something that pretty clearly proves it is not a gunshot wound to the right temple, my opinion is that it was just that.

[Yogimus]

I disagree.
I think that this was a street execution with a long arm which delivered a shot to the victims right temple.
That bruising on the arm is just dirt, I think. I do not see the deformities and swelling of the forearms that is mentioned. The angle of the camera causes that shape, but this looks completely normal to me. I see no other signs of obvious injury. Which is not what happens when somebody has fallen from the kind of height which could make a skull pop like that. It is also what happens when you have an auto vs. pedestrian impact. I have seen them come into the ER, and they are fifteen kinds of screwed up.
The reason the blood is not on the pants is because, after sustaining that kind of an injury, this guy immediately went horizontal and the blood did not have time to migrate down to his pants.
I have seen all kinds of trauma; car accidents, shootings, stabbings, drownings, falls, hangings, crush injuries. Now, it is possible that I am wrong here (it's not like I have the body to perform an autopsy on), but unless someone points out something that pretty clearly proves it is not a gunshot wound to the right temple, my opinion is that it was just that.

I was thinking the same thing, BUT look at the area by the thumbs (swollen, and a wound)

[Yogimus]

I disagree.
I think that this was a street execution with a long arm which delivered a shot to the victims right temple.
That bruising on the arm is just dirt, I think. I do not see the deformities and swelling of the forearms that is mentioned. The angle of the camera causes that shape, but this looks completely normal to me. I see no other signs of obvious injury. Which is not what happens when somebody has fallen from the kind of height which could make a skull pop like that. It is also what happens when you have an auto vs. pedestrian impact. I have seen them come into the ER, and they are fifteen kinds of screwed up.
The reason the blood is not on the pants is because, after sustaining that kind of an injury, this guy immediately went horizontal and the blood did not have time to migrate down to his pants.
I have seen all kinds of trauma; car accidents, shootings, stabbings, drownings, falls, hangings, crush injuries. Now, it is possible that I am wrong here (it's not like I have the body to perform an autopsy on), but unless someone points out something that pretty clearly proves it is not a gunshot wound to the right temple, my opinion is that it was just that.

I was thinking the same thing, BUT look at the area by the thumbs (swollen, and a wound)

I am pointing out my reasons, not arguing with a trauma doc

Either way, I think the point of trauma was the temple. Perhaps the skull cracked from overpressure, and slid. if he was on his knees, the blood would stay off the pants. A downward angle of the shot would explain that rather viscous splat as well.

[doc Russia]

I disagree.
I think that this was a street execution with a long arm which delivered a shot to the victims right temple.
That bruising on the arm is just dirt, I think. I do not see the deformities and swelling of the forearms that is mentioned. The angle of the camera causes that shape, but this looks completely normal to me. I see no other signs of obvious injury. Which is not what happens when somebody has fallen from the kind of height which could make a skull pop like that. It is also what happens when you have an auto vs. pedestrian impact. I have seen them come into the ER, and they are fifteen kinds of screwed up.
The reason the blood is not on the pants is because, after sustaining that kind of an injury, this guy immediately went horizontal and the blood did not have time to migrate down to his pants.
I have seen all kinds of trauma; car accidents, shootings, stabbings, drownings, falls, hangings, crush injuries. Now, it is possible that I am wrong here (it's not like I have the body to perform an autopsy on), but unless someone points out something that pretty clearly proves it is not a gunshot wound to the right temple, my opinion is that it was just that.

I was thinking the same thing, BUT look at the area by the thumbs (swollen, and a wound)

Yeah, at the base of the left thumb. I saw that. Looks like blood and dirt. No significant swelling. You could make the argument that the skin was avulsed off, but 1) that doesn't look right for that kind of a wound, and 2) there would likely be a visible flap if it was that significant. 3) bruises usually indicate a time from injury to death (Here's a little paper on it.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... p00348.pdf On page 351 you will see the table for histologic changes and corresponding time, but note that those times are from injury to death). Once people croak, the bruising that develops is called dependent lividity.