Events in Paris provide an excuse for med kit upgrade
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Re: Events in Paris provide an excuse for med kit upgrade
While you're at it, throw in a pack of kid's band-aids with cartoon characters on it. I carry some when working public service events, and it can help settle a young one with a boo-boo down when he/she sees Scooby Do on their finger. As a preventive measure, have enough to give one to any brothers/sisters along lest they decide to get a boo-boo themselves in order to get a band-aid like their sibling has.
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Again, I don't think you would ever need so many bandaids for an emergency, and medical tape/Neosporin is a better solution with less space taken up. Just my $.02, so your mileage may vary.
There are 6 (?) containers of bandaids in there. You only really would need one. (unless someone runs buck assed naked through a rosebush)
There are 6 (?) containers of bandaids in there. You only really would need one. (unless someone runs buck assed naked through a rosebush)
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Also, I don't see an Epipen. A few (4) rolls of compression wraps for sprained ankles and the such.
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Re: Events in Paris provide an excuse for med kit upgrade
Epipen is in the medicine cabinet (I'm allergic to bees, so I get a new one every year). And I have another one I keep on my person when I am in the field or camping.Yogimus wrote:Also, I don't see an Epipen. A few (4) rolls of compression wraps for sprained ankles and the such.
There is a compression wrap under the Izzy and Quiklot and several more in the med cabinet. http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html ... oC7Snw_wcB
I discovered them when one of my dogs injured its leg. They work much better than the self-adhering Ace bandages I've tried. And they are a helluva lot cheaper.
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Re: Events in Paris provide an excuse for med kit upgrade
Angry Birds and Cars work well, too.randy wrote:While you're at it, throw in a pack of kid's band-aids with cartoon characters on it. I carry some when working public service events, and it can help settle a young one with a boo-boo down when he/she sees Scooby Do on their finger. As a preventive measure, have enough to give one to any brothers/sisters along lest they decide to get a boo-boo themselves in order to get a band-aid like their sibling has.
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Re: Events in Paris provide an excuse for med kit upgrade
Then apparently you didn't read the kit notes.Yogimus wrote:Again, I don't think you would ever need so many bandaids for an emergency, and medical tape/Neosporin is a better solution with less space taken up. Just my $.02, so your mileage may vary.
There are 6 (?) containers of bandaids in there. You only really would need one. (unless someone runs buck assed naked through a rosebush)
I specifically noted not to put the whole sack of bandaids in the kit at once. Time, particularly spent in hot cars, kills adhesives (including medical tape).
The idea is to buy such small items in bulk, stock what you need, and refill from your own extras as used or destroyed.
Also, Neosporin, like most topicals, is >95% vaseline base and maybe 5% active ingredients.
Slathering Vaseline under medical tape will guarantee that both fall off in short order.
By the time you slip in a cut or folded 2"x2" piece of gauze to hold the Vaseline (and Neosporin) where it'll do the most good, without caused the tape to come off, you've spent about 50c worth of supplies to recreate what J&J and 10 other companies do with a bandaid/generic equivalent for about a penny.
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Re: Events in Paris provide an excuse for med kit upgrade
Fair enough.
Another recommendation would be to toss a bottle of gatorade in there. Oh and before I forget!! A FLASHLIGHT!!
Another recommendation would be to toss a bottle of gatorade in there. Oh and before I forget!! A FLASHLIGHT!!
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Re: Events in Paris provide an excuse for med kit upgrade
My first aid training doesn't really go beyond what you could get in the boy scouts, but I do work on things in the dark often enough. A headlamp is probably a better idea than a regular flashlight, so you can devote both hands to your task.
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Re: Events in Paris provide an excuse for med kit upgrade
Both Gatorade/equivalent and a light source are both excellent additions to any kit.
Neither is a medical item, per se (unless we want to add a tent to treat hypothermia, and a hyperbaric chamber to treat the bends).
So short of getting silly about it, I was putting together the most bang for the least buck for SHTF car or home-size first aid case.
Not listing everything on earth you could possibly need. If you look at the size of the Pelican tote mentioned, it is, by no means, something you'd tote around along with a ruck, LBE, personal weapon, etc. But in a vehicle or in the front hall closet, there isn't much critical care (where you could actually make a difference) you couldn't lay into with it.
It's also why every person's training and experience (which is why everybody needs some of both) should dictate the things you add or subtract from any kit list.
Stuff that Doc Russia uses multiple times a day, and that I could find my way around, might be totally worthless for Joe Average, as well as increase the likelihood that someone will be tempted to practice medical care beyond their own training, limitations, and intelligence.
"Stuff" does not equal "skillz".
That caveat aside, I usually carry a tube of cake frosting for diabetic emergencies, some electrolyte powder to mix with available water, and I have, IIRC, about a half-dozen of the Petzl Tactikka Plus LED headlamps shoved into each and every box and jump bag I own, and then some. Like the rest of their caving gear, they've proven indestructible and versatile, and the power save LEDs have avoided me needing to replace batteries in any of them, to date. (Being that good, they're currently unavailable indefinitely, blast it all, which means evidently they didn't have enough planned-obsolescence inferiority built in to keep the retailers happy. Or they've sold all they could make until the French elves who make them crank out another few conex boxes full of them, when they come back from their two-month vacay.)
Neither is a medical item, per se (unless we want to add a tent to treat hypothermia, and a hyperbaric chamber to treat the bends).
So short of getting silly about it, I was putting together the most bang for the least buck for SHTF car or home-size first aid case.
Not listing everything on earth you could possibly need. If you look at the size of the Pelican tote mentioned, it is, by no means, something you'd tote around along with a ruck, LBE, personal weapon, etc. But in a vehicle or in the front hall closet, there isn't much critical care (where you could actually make a difference) you couldn't lay into with it.
It's also why every person's training and experience (which is why everybody needs some of both) should dictate the things you add or subtract from any kit list.
Stuff that Doc Russia uses multiple times a day, and that I could find my way around, might be totally worthless for Joe Average, as well as increase the likelihood that someone will be tempted to practice medical care beyond their own training, limitations, and intelligence.
"Stuff" does not equal "skillz".
That caveat aside, I usually carry a tube of cake frosting for diabetic emergencies, some electrolyte powder to mix with available water, and I have, IIRC, about a half-dozen of the Petzl Tactikka Plus LED headlamps shoved into each and every box and jump bag I own, and then some. Like the rest of their caving gear, they've proven indestructible and versatile, and the power save LEDs have avoided me needing to replace batteries in any of them, to date. (Being that good, they're currently unavailable indefinitely, blast it all, which means evidently they didn't have enough planned-obsolescence inferiority built in to keep the retailers happy. Or they've sold all they could make until the French elves who make them crank out another few conex boxes full of them, when they come back from their two-month vacay.)
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Re: Events in Paris provide an excuse for med kit upgrade
Just from experience, I've dealt with more dehydration and heat related injuries than with arterial bleeding