Advice on Sighting Systems

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First Shirt
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So, I'm building a "kid-sized" Ruger 10/22, that is 33 inches long, and weighs just under four pounds. It's for the grandkids whose parents won't let them have one of their own. This way, when we have a family get-together, and the adults want to go out back and pop a cap, the kids won't be stuck having to use an adult sized gun if they want to participate.

What I'm debating about, since the lightweight barrel doesn't have sights, is what type of sighting system to use. It has to be simple, user-friendly, and something that can be taught in a few minutes. (An eight-year-old has almost as much attention span as a Cocker Spaniel)

The choices are either a holographic-type sight (think low-budget EOTech knockoff) or a red-dot scope. It can't be eye-relief critical because of the sizes of the munchkins involved (we have a six-year old who is about the size of the average four-year-old, and a twelve-year-old who is taller than I am).

The major concern is that it enable them to hit a four-inch target at 25 yards with some degree of repeatability. Oh, and not break Papa's toy fund in the purchase.

Suggestion, ideas, WAGs all appreciated.
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Peep sight for the 10-22 is a good 60 dollar investment.
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For iron sights, Tech Sights are a great investment. Get them to learn how to use irons at a young age.

Primary Arms is supposed to have very good sights for the money.
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Let's make this stupid simple:

NAME YOUR PRICE POINT

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I am truly touched by your consideration :lol:

I'd like to try to stay under $100, but could probably be persuaded to go $150, since "it's for the children."
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Step one would be the picatinny rail for the receiver, which makes every other choice afterwards as easy as plug and play.
I'd learn 'em right on a post-and-hole peep set up.
Once they have the basics, I'd switch 'em to a big-can red dot, which turns a 10/22 into a grade-schooler's sniper rifle, without risking expensive optics, and glowing red dots add a bit of James Bondian flare to destroying paper targets, empty cans, plastic army men, and random bits of fruit, yet do so for a very moderate price. Bass Pro and Cabela's models are admirably suited.

In case you get jealous, you might consider one of these for your ownself, or as a second choice, one of these. They are study metal and wood, easy to apply, and look every bit as cool as the pictures in real life.
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If you go red dot, Primary Arms has a few models that have a pretty good reputation around the 'net. https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_s/586.htm I have no personal experience w. them.

If you look around, you can find a Vortex Strikefire on sale for under $150. I have 2 of those and have been very happy so far.
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Picatinny rail on a 10\22 is a Very Smart Move.
Me, I'd go red dot rather than irons.
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Highspeed wrote:Picatinny rail on a 10\22 is a Very Smart Move.
Me, I'd go red dot rather than irons.
They say that the mark of an intelligent person is how much they agree with you, so you must be pretty damn' smart! :lol:

I'm thinking red-dot simply because it will make it easier for newbies to get rounds on target. I agree on the use of irons, but this is not gonna be Papa's basic rifle marksmanship, it will be busting clay pigeons or balloons at 20 meters. Let them get some hits, then when they have well and truly taken the bait, set the hook!
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The Bushnell TRS-25 might a be a good red dot for kids.

The Cabelas Pine Ridge red dot that came with my JR carbine seems like a decent sight for what it is. I don't think they sell it anymore, though.
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