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Blackhawk Serpa Reverse Compatibility: M&P to Sigma

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:02 am
by workinwifdakids
The audience to which this post is addressed is fairly limited to... me?
:D

But perhaps this might ring interesting to someone, if only a visitor from the vast reaches of the internet. I personally used a borrowed Blackhawk Serpa designed for the M&P 9 (full size), and verified that it works perfectly for the S&W 9VE (Sigma, 9mm). I used both the Sigma and the M&P in the Serpa during two range trips, went back and forth between the two handguns, and the fit and function were flawless.

:jacked:
Yes, I am fully aware of the issues some have had with the Serpa.

The trepidation I experienced at using a Serpa was unfounded. I found the holster easy, intuitive, and never once did my finger come anywhere near the trigger, nor did my finger at any time risk going inside the trigger guard. It's less than a training issue, to me - it's as though some people didn't even bother to consider how it's supposed to work. I had fun.

Re: Blackhawk Serpa Reverse Compatibility: M&P to Sigma

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:55 am
by 308Mike
Agreed.

But remember, YOU'RE NOT a multi-million dollar company doing training for folks with firearms from NO (ZERO) EXPERIENCE (and some might even be TERRIFIED of the guns they bring to the range), to heavily military and civilian LEO training. Training which may involve "coming from the holster."

Many novices (when combined with more experienced shooters), will try to shortcut the training process and/or techniques so they don't show their lack of knowledge/training/experience, so they do things which may create safety issues to not create obstacles for the class, nor slow the rest of them down while in training. When training large numbers of people, I too have seen this among trainees when dealing with mixed-experienced classes. Peer pressure does NOT have to be overt, as most people will respond to such pressure even if nothing is said or inferred by actions, but yet novices will STILL feel the pressure none-the-less.

When teaching mixed-experienced classes, you ALWAYS have to walk a very fine line between the class's experience and inexperience. The challenge is to keep EVERYONE engaged while not making the inexperienced feel like dummies and not dumbing the material down too much so you lose the more experienced shooters.

The bottom line is; CAN YOU use the holster in a proficient manner?? A manner which allows you to get on target without losing the fraction of a second it takes to remember to push the button to release the handgun while simultaneously drawing the gun from the holster? That's what REALLY matters, doesn't it (all other considerations aside)?

Re: Blackhawk Serpa Reverse Compatibility: M&P to Sigma

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:03 am
by Yogimus
A holster that can be used by 99% of people means that 1 of 100 will shoot themselves. This proves to be quite the litigious minefield.

Re: Blackhawk Serpa Reverse Compatibility: M&P to Sigma

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:02 pm
by RangerWT
I personally like the Serpa holster and the design in general, I have had several over the years (especially with the Glock) and have not shot myself yet. (knock, knock, knock :lol: ). I have one for my full size 1911's that see a lot of use.

As to a compatibility note, I have found that the SIG Sauer SP-2022 with the new style rail fits perfect in the holster designed for the Springfield XD.