Riot Gun Configuration: Is It Ever Desirable?

[Yogimus]

Remington Express is about 2mm longer than a zombie-max round, and the 2mm adds up after 6 rounds.

[Aglifter]

Yes, to 12MM... Or, not quite 1/2"...

[Termite]

Aguila makes mini buckshot shells. LINK. They are only 1.5 inches long.

BUT:

Notes from Aguila on Shotgun Modifications to use Minishells:
First of all, any SAAMI/CIP approved 12ga shotgun may fire Minishells, be it side-by-side, over-and-under or pump action; however, the latter type will not cycle them flawlessly. The out-of-the-box shotgun that we have tested cycling Minishells very well, is the Winchester M1300 18" Defender. Winchesters 1897 seems to like the shorter rounds, however not as much as the Winchester 1300. We still have to test the Winchester 1887.

MOSSBERGS 500/590s will cycle Minishells pretty well once the shooter acquires a "feeling" as to how to pump the action; however, this will not prevent the occasional jam. To further solve the problem, we have lengthened and widened the little short metal bar (shell elevator), which catches the round to be subsequently fed to the ramp and chamber. This modification will not prevent you from firing regular size shot shells. The other modification that would decisively help in the proper cycling, would be to install the ejector in a more forward position to catch the spent shorter shell and eject it, before it may flip and cause jams. However, we DO NOT recommend you to do this, because you will most likely no longer be able to fire regular size shells.

Any competent gunsmith should be able to perform the modification to the elevator described above.

REMINGTONS 870s seem to require a more involved modification, which we have never attempted. We have received calls from clients stating that they have tried our Minishells in their 870s with excellent results, and that they did not understand why we have always mentioned the potential cycling problems. To this, we would like to state once more that Minishells will not cycle flawlessly in regular pump action shotguns, no matter how well some customers are able to cycle them. Again, the Winchester 1300 Defender would seem to be the one cycling Minishells best.

We do not know of any semi-automatic shotguns functioning with Minishells.

[Rich Jordan]

Aguila makes mini buckshot shells. LINK. They are only 1.5 inches long.

I really liked the idea of those but I tried both buck and slug in a chinee '97 replica (that worked perfectly with 2-3/4" shells) and an 870 Express. Both shotguns had issues; the '97 actually ripped the brass base off, dumping loose powder and projectile in the action. The 870 just kept jamming.

I keep my stash in case I ever get a double...

[evan price]

Aguila makes mini buckshot shells. LINK. They are only 1.5 inches long.

I really liked the idea of those but I tried both buck and slug in a chinee '97 replica (that worked perfectly with 2-3/4" shells) and an 870 Express. Both shotguns had issues; the '97 actually ripped the brass base off, dumping loose powder and projectile in the action. The 870 just kept jamming.

I keep my stash in case I ever get a double...

That makes no sense at all, the only purpose of having them is to enhance capacity by fitting extra underpowered ammo in the mag tube.
Or do you mean you intend to just burn them up in a double to get rid of them? Cause thats sensible.

[Yogimus]

I too have heard bad things about the feeding.

Does anyone make 2 1/2 shells?

[Rich Jordan]

I keep my stash in case I ever get a double...

That makes no sense at all, the only purpose of having them is to enhance capacity by fitting extra underpowered ammo in the mag tube.
Or do you mean you intend to just burn them up in a double to get rid of them? Cause thats sensible.

The latter. I imagine the buckshot rounds would still do the job for home defense and I'd have two on tap instead of one and a jam... of course with the '97 replica I'd have a 16" bayonet for backup after that first shot...

[Rich Jordan]

I too have heard bad things about the feeding.

Does anyone make 2 1/2 shells?

Don't know anything about the company but here

[Rich Jordan]

Nobelsport 2-1/4" 00 buckshot

I expect they're available from a more honorable vendor

[Yogimus]

Fuck CTD. For real. For fun. For the butt. I am still signed up for their mailer, and it if fun to watch them try to act like the fucking palladin of the second amendment.