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Has anyone used one of those Harrells to compare it to other brands of tricklers?
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Are you asking if anybody has ever compared a Harrell measure against other Culver type measures, then yes. I would think the fact that the body is much more extensively machined, the needle roller bearings, and the fact that it's EXTREMELY tight fitting would proclude the need to test them head to head. Is it a better measure? Yes. Will you get better results? Not necessarily.


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I used to have a Belding and Mull, which I think the Harrell is based on.
I also knew an old timer who had a vibrating pad made out of an old pair of hair clippers, that he sat his trickler on and used a foot switch to trickle powder. Problem was it would vibrate everything on his bench.
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HTRN wrote:Harrell is probably the best PERIOD. With a price to match.
Their turret press looks interesting, but I'm not sure I like how it is attached to the bench with a clamp, instead of bolts.
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HTRN wrote:Harrell is probably the best PERIOD. With a price to match.
Aha, after visiting that site, I can finally identify the press used in the illustrations of the Vihtavuori loading manual. Eureka!
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Speaking of WESCOG powder tricklers and hair clippers.

The guy with the belted magnum sizing die has an entryabout his Rube Goldberg setup. For grins and giggles, I think I might have to give it a try myself with my ancient Redding measure and my shiny new red Hornady trickler.
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HTRN wrote:?

Are you asking if anybody has ever compared a Harrell measure against other Culver type measures, then yes. I would think the fact that the body is much more extensively machined, the needle roller bearings, and the fact that it's EXTREMELY tight fitting would proclude the need to test them head to head. Is it a better measure? Yes. Will you get better results? Not necessarily.


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My bad. I meant if anyone here has used both the Harrell and the more common-brand (Hornady/RCBS/etc.) tricklers and how they all match up. This is more a question of general interest since I don't have any money for a reloading set-up yet.
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Pretty much everything Chris said, except that the Lee Perfect Powder measure is much better than he thinks it is.

Meters stick and ball powders like a dream. Very consistent on short cut powders such as RE15. It's consistent enough that I don't bother to trickle and hand weigh each charge for the 200 and 300 yard line.

Somewhat finicky on flake powders when the humidity is low (due to static from the plastic components), but I've found that with the right technique it works ok. (basically tap the side of the measure twice, once at the top and once at the bottom of the stroke)

The trick with a powder trickler is you need a heavy one. The ones made by Forester and Redding are pretty good (mine is a Redding). The RCBS one is pretty crappy.

For long distance shooting, drop the charge about 0.3 light and trickle in the rest.
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I think some of you guys would like the now discontinued Prometheus measure. Combines a trickler with a measure and triple beam scale.


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The Prometheus does look interesting. Too bad the original web page is an ad link page now.

I'm eventually going to get an automatic ike the RCBS, but for now I'm happy with my Redding 3BR; it came with both rifle and handgun micrometer chambers. The consistency with most powders is excellent; I have found out recently it doesn't do as well with the big flake powders for handguns; the variance is +/- .15gr which is too much. The sphericall/ball and stick powders have worked well, some with barely measurable ( on my balance scale) variance.
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