It seems like they go out of their way to not sell you their products.
HTRN
Giant Gun Safe Arrived-Homeland Security Safe Review
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HTRN
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Now, if only I could find a retailer for S&G locks, with prices..
It seems like they go out of their way to not sell you their products.
HTRN
It seems like they go out of their way to not sell you their products.
HTRN
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308Mike
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HTRN wrote:Now, if only I could find a retailer for S&G locks, with prices..
It seems like they go out of their way to not sell you their products.
HTRN
Back on one of Kim's old sites/forums I had posted part of my discussion with a guy at S&G, including name and link to their site. I'll have to search my subscriptions and see if anyone quoted my response 'cause I thought I had some other info in there too.
EDIT (I thought you'd want the NY area):
Here's some info from their site:
Best Access - Buffalo
40 Gardenville Parkway West
#105
West Seneca, NY 14224
800-688-1412
http://www.bestaccess.com
IDN Hardware Sales, Inc.
720 Maryvale Road
(Buffalo)
Cheektowaga, NY 14225
716-626-1208
Fax: 716-626-1310
TF:888-588-5768
buffalo@idnhardware.com
http://www.idnhardware.com
IDN Hardware Sales, Inc.
122 E. Molloy Road
(Syracuse)
Mattydale, NY 13211
315-455-9305
Fax: 315-455-9313
TF:800-805-0408
syracuse@idnhardware.com
http://www.idnhardware.com
Mayflower Sales Co, Inc.
614 Bergen St.
Brooklyn, NY 11238
718-622-8785
Fax: 718-789-8346
TF:800-221-2052
pilgrim@mfsales.com
http://www.mfsales.com
Mazuik & Co., Inc.
78 Benbro St.
Buffalo, NY 14225
716-684-9133
Fax: 716-684-5192
TF:888-777-6981
sales@mzkworld.com
http://www.mzkworld.com
Mazuik & Co., Inc.
1251 W. Genesee Street
Syracuse, NY 13204
315-474-3959
Fax: 315-472-3111
TF:800-777-5945
sales@mzkworld.com
http://www.mzkworld.com
Standard Wholesale Hardware Inc.
42 Ludlow Street
New York, NY 10002
212-353-0450
Fax: 212-420-9892
TF:800-543-LOCK
sales@standardlock.com
http://www.standardlock.com
U.S. Lock Corporation
77 Rodeo Dr.
Brentwood, NY 11717
631-243-3000
Fax: 631-243-0390
TF:800-925-5000
uslockfgv@aol.com
http://www.uslock.com
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A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
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Mike, those are all "Email us for a quote!" places. I don't want that(Hell, in that case, I'd try and deal with S&G directly) - I want a place that will list the price, and ideally, has an online store. I don't need the run around. I occasionally come across old safes(the last one was like 4000lbs and had double doors), and most of the time, the lock had seen better days. I'm tempted to grab the next one and use it for a gunsafe, but only if I can replace it with a new lock.
HTRN
HTRN
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308Mike
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It looks like Clark Security Products allows online shopping, but you have to setup an account first.
CLARK Security Products Web Catalog
Place your order online with the CLARK Security Products Web Catalog! The Web Catalog lets you build and submit your order anytime during the day or night, any day of the week. All you need is an Internet connection and a password
POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON
A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
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mekender
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there is a guy on THR that works for a company somewhere near TN that reclaims vaults and safes from businesses that go out of business...HTRN wrote:Mike, those are all "Email us for a quote!" places. I don't want that(Hell, in that case, I'd try and deal with S&G directly) - I want a place that will list the price, and ideally, has an online store. I don't need the run around. I occasionally come across old safes(the last one was like 4000lbs and had double doors), and most of the time, the lock had seen better days. I'm tempted to grab the next one and use it for a gunsafe, but only if I can replace it with a new lock.
HTRN
he can get used vault doors for half the price of new ones.
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+1 on being careful. The key to moving heavy stuff is finesse and leverage, and lots of clear thought. Don't try and grunt anything, nor try and rush anything, and be sure to have considered all possibilities of any actions before taking them.
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HTRN
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Yeah, I remember him - I did a thread on "the forum that shall not be named" about a guy building a vault in his basement using a bankvault door, and linked to the thread about the same thing on THR.
I believe this is the website that was linked to as a reseller of vault doors.
HTRN
I believe this is the website that was linked to as a reseller of vault doors.
HTRN
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yeah im thinking that is him.
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DwightG
Re: Giant Gun Safe Arrived-Homeland Security Safe Review
The last time I bought a S&G group II combination lock (about a year ago), it was about $90 for the lock, dial, and ring. That was up from the $65 or so I used to pay back when I was building safes but still not unbearable. About $20-25 of it was the ring and dial. More or less depending on whether you want chrome, a key locking dial, etc.
As for setting the combination, it's quite simple. New locks used to come with the tool but you may have to buy it separately now. I don't recall if the last ones I got came with the tool. It's a simple matter of dialing the combination using the setting index (that other line on the front that's at about 11:00 o'clock), stopping on the last number, inserting the tool, unlocking the tumblers, dialing the new combination, relocking the tumblers and removing the tool. You do it all with the door open so even a major screw up is pretty easily recoverable. I've had to coach more than one customer over the phone after they botched resetting the combo on their safe. A nuisance but quite do-able.
As for setting the combination, it's quite simple. New locks used to come with the tool but you may have to buy it separately now. I don't recall if the last ones I got came with the tool. It's a simple matter of dialing the combination using the setting index (that other line on the front that's at about 11:00 o'clock), stopping on the last number, inserting the tool, unlocking the tumblers, dialing the new combination, relocking the tumblers and removing the tool. You do it all with the door open so even a major screw up is pretty easily recoverable. I've had to coach more than one customer over the phone after they botched resetting the combo on their safe. A nuisance but quite do-able.