Fishing for Survival

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Erik
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Re: Fishing for Survival

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I wrote about a survival fishing kit here:
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Get a braided line of some sort, one that is abrasion resistant, and very strong. Forget about nylon line, even if some fish might shy away from the braided line, the benefits make it a better option anyway. It can be used for anything nylon line can be used for, it's easier to tie and still keep a good knot strength, and it's stronger and doesnt degrade as much over time.

Get some good medium sized hooks. They dont take much room, and they're worth it. Hook the bait and toss it out freeline, and let it sink to the bottom, where most fish will pick it up anyway, make a loop in the line and put it over a branch or something, and watch the branch for movement when the fish swim away. That way you can have several lines running and watch them all from some distance, and increase your odds a lot more.
If you absolutley feel you need a bobber, any wooden stick will do well and be more practical and sensitive than an air filled container.
To improve the kit, add some different sizes of hooks and some nylon for hooklengths for the shy fish.
The question here is if it's a true survival kit, something that you want to use to stay alive. If so, you will need something that fish on it's own, either a kit like I described above, or a net or a trap of some sort. Bobber fishing sounds good in theory, but they do require some work to keep the wind or current from moving them. Forget spinfishing and anything that requires you to actually hold the rod, you'll most likely spend more energy doing it than you'll get from the catch.

If you want something to bring with you to take the opportunity to go fishing if you have the chance, then I'd go with a good quality telescopic spinning rod and reel. I'm personally looking at getting a Shimano rod, coupled with a Shimano reel, I believe the 7 feet rod is 16" folded or something. Shimano is great quality, and it will last. Add a small reel with braided line and a few good spinners and jigs, and you have a great kit.

The Ronco and other kits like that look really good, but to me their are more of a fun novelty. Most kits like that tend to break at the worst time, in my experience. I wouldn't put my trust in any of them, quality tend to cost. They look fun to try out though, and maybe have one in the car.
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Re: Fishing for Survival

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Gotta agree with what the others said, in a true survival situation you want something you can set and come back to, not something you have to sit there with.

I had one of those pocket-fisherman things a while back, it made a good nose-picker, but that's about it. Not enough length to get a decent cast or fight a decent fish.

If you're looking for something to toss in the trunk for hey-there's-a-body-of-water-I-wonder-if-there's-fish-in-it, either a telescoping or milti-piece rod and reel is fine. I have one that's got a (IIRC) six-piece graphite rod and spinning reel, came in an aluminum box with a little tackle box containing a couple spinners, a few jigs, and a couple bobbers. I've used it, it works fine, although I generally don't like rods in more than two pieces.
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Re: Fishing for Survival

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A dozen of these and some hooks should do you just fine.
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Re: Fishing for Survival

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Illegal but used in the past.

They used to take the generator out of the old antique hand cranked telephone, attach a couple of bare wires, drop them into the water, then crank it and scoop up the stunned fish that floated to the top.

The lime bomb. Put some lime into a mason jar, punch some holes into the lid and throw it into the water. Get down stream and scoop up the dead fish.

Find the narrowest part of a stream and stretch a net or build a "fence". Go upstream and pour in powdered or liquid soap and agitate it. It won't kill the fish but they'll flee from it into the net or fence (fish weir woven from wood, reeds, or whatever, lets the water flow but blocks or traps the fish.

You can make a weir that is wide mouth that narrows down, the fish can't turn around to get out.
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Re: Fishing for Survival

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toad wrote:Illegal but used in the past.
As they told us in Survival School in discussing "poaching" methods during peace time survival scenarios; OK, so the Game Warden comes along and throws you in jail. Roof, warm bed, 3 meals a day, You've Been Rescued! Any fines are likely to be a lot less than the price of an hour's worth of fuel for a SAR chopper.

For Combat/SHTF scenarios, the main thing is to use a method that doesn't attract a lot of attention to your location.
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Re: Fishing for Survival

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I messed around with using sticks pushed into the mud to build a "fish trap" - worked surprisingly well... They're pretty good at getting in, but too stupid to get back out...

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toad wrote: They used to take the generator out of the old antique hand cranked telephone, attach a couple of bare wires, drop them into the water, then crank it and scoop up the stunned fish that floated to the top.
Somebody remembered my dynamite/Honda generator+2 ground rods comment from(jeez) 2 boards ago.. :lol:


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Re: Fishing for Survival

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The Fish Net Company

They are about 30 minutes from me. They make good stuff.

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Re: Fishing for Survival

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Termite wrote:The Fish Net Company

They are about 30 minutes from me. They make good stuff.
Wong link! That's for the other way to catch a fish!
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Re: Fishing for Survival

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CombatController wrote:
Termite wrote:The Fish Net Company

They are about 30 minutes from me. They make good stuff.
Wong link! That's for the other way to catch a fish!
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