G36 continuing stink.

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It is now looking like H&K used the wrong polymer for the carbine but the polymer was not to specifications. It looks like they changed the formulation deliberately to make some money because they thought it would be good enough and they never bothered to tell anybody outside of the company. Then the rifles had to do sustained fire and do it in a hot climate. The cell phone camera did them in. The troops took too many photos and videos that made it to the media for the company to keep weaseling out of a fix. The fix would have been to gut the uppers and lowers and replace them. Which turned out to be more than the original costs of the rifle apparently. So now the bun fights between the public, the politicians, and all the agencies that were involved will probably put a replacement rifle into decades away unless they are "unexpectedly' having to deal with hot border invasions and vacationing Russians. Apparently the fight over buying a COTS replacement vs. the Not Invented Here vs. We aren't in Afghanistan Anymore vs. Have You Noticed the Border and the Russians crowds is getting pretty fierce. J'Accuse to exponential powers.
And here I thought US procurement was messed up.

[Jericho941]

Eat that, HKPro.

The G36 jams so rarely that HK has said that they have a G36K that has been fired more than 25,000 rounds without cleaning and no failures. I defy an M16 to duplicate that.

I defy HK to actually prove that.

[MarkD]

Because you suck and we hate you.

[Jericho941]

How well do HK guns resist corrosion from fanboy tears?

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There is a gun range in Los Vegas "Battle Field Los Vegas" IIRC that runs a bunch of fire arms including full auto weapons.
They won't touch H&K because they can't get parts or service from H&K. The longevity of the weapons that they did have from them didn't impress them. They had better luck with Daniel Defense and Bravo Company AR's. They've also ran some insane rounds fired numbers with Glock pistols. I think you can find there reports on AR15.com a website that I don't go to much. The Firearms Blog had links IIRC.

Added: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015 ... tal-range/
Interesting photo of broken AR bolt from lower tier source.

[Vonz90]

While I love the classic HKs, they have been through two ownership changes since then. It is not the same company. Kind of like Colt, it isn't really the same thing anymore.

[HTRN]

HK, because you suck, and we hate you.

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While I love the classic HKs, they have been through two ownership changes since then. It is not the same company. Kind of like Colt, it isn't really the same thing anymore.

This is what happens to a lot of companies. They are started by innovators, then caretakers come in to run it and things go kind of static, then bean counters who read a book come in and attempt to improve short term profits by reducing spending on things like personnel and/or quality. Next H&K will do a deal with some third world country to cut manufacturing costs or something like that.

[Old Grafton]

This is what happens to a lot of companies. They are started by innovators, then caretakers come in to run it and things go kind of static, then bean counters who read a book come in and attempt to improve short term profits by reducing spending on things like personnel and/or quality. Next H&K will do a deal with some third world country to cut manufacturing costs or something like that.

Word for word the history of High Standard firearms, except maybe the third world sourcing. And Winchester, WITH the foreign sourcing (the Japanese Winchesters are well-made, but still....). The list is long. (Dirac Angestun Gesept)