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Not Just Any Winchester '73

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:28 am
by Darrell
This one was found leaning against a tree in Great Basin National Park. It had been there ~132 years.
From the Great Basin National Park page:

Numerous questions surround the small piece of American heritage found and recovered by Great Basin National Park archaeologists in November. The 132 year-old rifle, exposed to sun, wind, snow, and rain was found leaning against a tree in the park. The cracked wood stock, weathered to grey, and the brown rusted barrel blended into the colors of the old juniper tree in a remote rocky outcrop, keeping the rifle hidden for many years.

“Model 1873” distinctively engraved on the mechanism identify the rifle as the Winchester Model 1873 repeating rifle. The serial number on the lower tang corresponds in Winchester records held at the Center for the West, Cody Firearms Museum in Cody, Wyoming, with a manufacture and shipping date of 1882. Currently, the detailed history of this rifle is unknown. Winchester records do not indicate who purchased the rifle from the warehouse or where it was shipped.
Pics:

http://imgur.com/a/L76CD

Reddit thread:

http://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/2 ... _in_great/

I wonder what kind of stories it could tell?

Re: Not Just Any Winchester '73

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:05 am
by Rod
Darrell wrote:This one was found leaning against a tree in Great Basin National Park. It had been there ~132 years.
From the Great Basin National Park page:

Numerous questions surround the small piece of American heritage found and recovered by Great Basin National Park archaeologists in November. The 132 year-old rifle, exposed to sun, wind, snow, and rain was found leaning against a tree in the park. The cracked wood stock, weathered to grey, and the brown rusted barrel blended into the colors of the old juniper tree in a remote rocky outcrop, keeping the rifle hidden for many years.

“Model 1873” distinctively engraved on the mechanism identify the rifle as the Winchester Model 1873 repeating rifle. The serial number on the lower tang corresponds in Winchester records held at the Center for the West, Cody Firearms Museum in Cody, Wyoming, with a manufacture and shipping date of 1882. Currently, the detailed history of this rifle is unknown. Winchester records do not indicate who purchased the rifle from the warehouse or where it was shipped.
For something that's been sitting out that long, I'm surprised at how good a shape it's in.

Pics:

http://imgur.com/a/L76CD

Reddit thread:

http://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/2 ... _in_great/

I wonder what kind of stories it could tell?

Re: Not Just Any Winchester '73

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:15 am
by Netpackrat
That is pretty neat. How do they know how long it has been sitting there?

Re: Not Just Any Winchester '73

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:55 am
by Darrell
Sloppy writing on my part. The rifle is 132 years old, so something less than that.

Re: Not Just Any Winchester '73

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:01 pm
by Windy Wilson
Well, the Great Basin is -- what-- three rainshadows from the Pacific Ocean?

Re: Not Just Any Winchester '73

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:51 pm
by Flintlock Tom
It's just a couple hundred miles from Rock Springs, WO. So I vote that it was Butch Cassidy's gun!

Re: Not Just Any Winchester '73

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:18 am
by PawPaw
Darrel wrote:I wonder what kind of stories it could tell?
Probably not many. It's been leaning against that tree for a while.

I wonder if it's still loaded?

Re: Not Just Any Winchester '73

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:28 am
by Netpackrat
Shit. Yeah, it more than likely is/was still loaded. How would you deal with that without trying to work the action, which is most likely frozen solid, and would destroy the "as-found" value of the piece? Maybe braze a drill bit on an extension, and drill down through the front of the bullet to get the powder out? Which in itself does not seem really safe.

Re: Not Just Any Winchester '73

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:06 pm
by Old Grafton
An x-ray will show any cartridges chambered or in the magazine. The bore is probably plugged solid with accumulated rust and debris from years of vertical position.

(As an aside, there was a cannon on display for many years at the Gettysburg NHS that was discovered to still be loaded as I recall, causing some small amount of consternation.)

Additionally the location of the rifle when found could/should be a start in a search for any other relics or possible remains; old missing-persons reports in the area checked, etc. Might be quite a good vacation or time-killer for a retiree.

Re: Not Just Any Winchester '73

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:18 pm
by PawPaw
Netpackrat wrote:Shit. Yeah, it more than likely is/was still loaded. How would you deal with that without trying to work the action, which is most likely frozen solid, and would destroy the "as-found" value of the piece? Maybe braze a drill bit on an extension, and drill down through the front of the bullet to get the powder out? Which in itself does not seem really safe.
That would probably be pretty safe. The bullet is most likely a lead bullet, which is non-sparking and the cartridge case is brass, which is non-sparking, so the danger of ignition is very low.