Trying to improve my groups

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308Mike
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Re: Trying to improve my groups

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mekender wrote:
308Mike wrote:
mekender wrote:i would only recommend that if you were shooting benched for the group.
I think if you talk to Range Masters, you'll find most people don't shoot benched well, and besides, when you NEED to use the gun, you're not going to be benched (although hopefully you'll be behind cover).
ok, but how do you tell how the sights are set if your own arms and hands are working against you in sighting the gun in?
Your groups won't be nearly as consistent. If your hands and arms are working against you, your target will appear more sprayed than grouped, 'cause they won't be consistent. If you move the sights and the groups move right along with it and stays consistent, you'll be fine by adjusting the sights. That's why they're adjustable.
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Re: Trying to improve my groups

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One dirty and quick method to improve one handed firing is to use only your trigger finger and thumb to 'grip' the pistol.
Line the weapon up with your forearm, the sight-line going right through the wrist to the elbow and up to the shoulder.
The remaining digits are only supporting the weapon but are not tight at all.
It, the weapon is balancing on the middle finger with the trigger guard setting on the finger/knuckle.
The thumb and trigger finger simultaneously squeeze the weapon from both sides. You try and touch the thumb tip and fingertip together. Equal pressure and movement. By doing it this way you don't roll the weapon in your hand while firing it.

It's hard to describe or explain but it's very effective.

One thing you may try is to hold and sight the weapon but have someone else 'pull' the trigger. Assuming a decent weapon and ammo, and as long as you do your part with the sights and hold, you will have a nice group.

Once you have a "group" no matter where it is, but consistantly a group, you are justified in adjusting the sights. Everybody see's them differently so my sight settings may be completely off for you. Or not.
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Re: Trying to improve my groups

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Another thing you can do is compare groups fired single-action and double-action (thinking revolver). If your rounds are hitting the same place, it's not you - adjust the sights.

Also, use only the first pad of your finger to pull the trigger, and make sure you pull it straight back. Wrapping your finger around the trigger tends to pull to the side.
POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON

A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.

I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
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