Let's quit insulting each other, first of all.
And while leaving a briefcase on the front seat of your car in a parking lot is akin to a lithe model in a rubber miniskirt at a biker bar, the blame for the expected robbery or rape lies both with the possessor of the briefcase and/or miniskirt for making a bad decision, as well as the lowlife who took advantage of the situation.
Texan loses collection of mint Colts in Ohio
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You can make a totally valid point that wearing slutty clothes, or leaving valuables in sight is stupid, but a criminal is 100% responsible for his criminal acts. There was a time when society understood this, but evidently the cultural phenomenon of coddling criminals, and/or making excuses for their behavior, has pervaded a lot farther than I had thought.Frankingun wrote:Let's quit insulting each other, first of all.
And while leaving a briefcase on the front seat of your car in a parking lot is akin to a lithe model in a rubber miniskirt at a biker bar, the blame for the expected robbery or rape lies both with the possessor of the briefcase and/or miniskirt for making a bad decision, as well as the lowlife who took advantage of the situation.
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Criminal is 100% responsible for being a criminal.Netpackrat wrote:You can make a totally valid point that wearing slutty clothes, or leaving valuables in sight is stupid, but a criminal is 100% responsible for his criminal acts. There was a time when society understood this, but evidently the cultural phenomenon of coddling criminals, and/or making excuses for their behavior, has pervaded a lot farther than I had thought.Frankingun wrote:Let's quit insulting each other, first of all.
And while leaving a briefcase on the front seat of your car in a parking lot is akin to a lithe model in a rubber miniskirt at a biker bar, the blame for the expected robbery or rape lies both with the possessor of the briefcase and/or miniskirt for making a bad decision, as well as the lowlife who took advantage of the situation.
That little factoid isn't going to keep your guns being stolen.
Victim taking responsibility and not volunteering to be a victim just might, in the future.
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That's a lot more reasonable. Saying somebody is stupid or a volunteer is a far cry from wanting to have the victim charged with a crime.Yogimus wrote:Criminal is 100% responsible for being a criminal.
That little factoid isn't going to keep your guns being stolen.
Victim taking responsibility and not volunteering to be a victim just might, in the future.
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When did "locks are for honest people" become a thing? 

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Losing a firearm due to negligence shouldn't be free. You are providing arms to a criminal element.Netpackrat wrote:That's a lot more reasonable. Saying somebody is stupid or a volunteer is a far cry from wanting to have the victim charged with a crime.Yogimus wrote:Criminal is 100% responsible for being a criminal.
That little factoid isn't going to keep your guns being stolen.
Victim taking responsibility and not volunteering to be a victim just might, in the future.
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Re: Texan loses collection of mint Colts in Ohio
The guy is out several valuable collectible revolvers, including family heirlooms. Plus, people all over the world think he is an idiot. Doesn't sound like his negligence was free, to me.Yogimus wrote:Losing a firearm due to negligence shouldn't be free. You are providing arms to a criminal element.
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Re: Texan loses collection of mint Colts in Ohio
Might just be the military in me.
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The military, at least the Army, only truly considers personal weapons(rifle/handgun/etc) "properly secured" if they are locked in a company arms vault. Or on your person, but using deadly force to prevent theft of your weapon is not(or wasn't) authorized(outside a combat zone).Yogimus wrote:Might just be the military in me.
Additionally, the Army was infamous for putting soldiers on guard duty with rifles......and no ammo. Which is, IMHO, criminal negligence and depraved indifference to the health and welfare of it's soldiers.
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I hear ya. For eight of my last 10 years in uniform, I was considered the local subject-matter expert on what we called Change 2 to AR 190-11, Physical Security of Arms, Ammunition and Explosives. I spent a good portion of my time advising commanders on physical security of arms and ammunition. Proper doors on arms rooms, motion detectors, levels of intrusion-resistance, etc, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. I was never so happy in my life to leave the purgatory of being a staff-rat and go back to a field battalion.Yogimus wrote:Might just be the military in me.
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