BIT: Converting a supermarket to an indoor range

[BDK]

Might not be a bad idea, depending on how the condition of the HVAC etc is?

I think it might be able to be reworked.

Perhaps a gun store/range/restaurant combo - but plan on finding some guys to put it together as a hobby, or find a gun making company that could take some of the space - should be lots of power to run the machines, etc.

I just haven't seen many ranges that I think would make a good investment- Red's, in S Austin would be, but that's an institution.

[blackeagle603]

I don't think the range pays for the range any more than a surfboard shop makes in on board sales or a gun shop on gun sales. The make or break is in the sale of all the other goodies out front from chewing gum to t-shirts and safes.

[Vonz90]

I have heard that it is popular in parts to turn any place into a range spontaneously.

[Jericho941]

How hostile is Bremerton to gun ranges?

Kitsap County is, IIRC, in the process of persecuting the Kitsap Rifle and Revolver Club, because idiots move too close to a shooting range and then don't like the noise.

Yeah, Kitsap County's been going around in circles with them for awhile. Last I heard KRRC was shut down over some conflict over berm size. Kitsap County regs have basically made it impossible to set up an outdoor range besides KRRC and the Poulsbo Sportsman's Club, so I thought that maybe an indoor one in the city limits would get around that.

Difficulty: It's right next to a (closed) school.

[randy]

Difficulty: It's right next to a (closed) school.

Buy that as well and convert it to a shoot house! Using simunitions or paint balls if nothing else. Two Fer!

[Jericho941]

Difficulty: It's right next to a (closed) school.

Buy that as well and convert it to a shoot house! Using simunitions or paint balls if nothing else. Two Fer!

I like it!

Guess I should start buying Powerball tickets.

[evan price]

You'd think any leftover furnishigs and equipment would have some value, at least as scrap, making getting rid of the stuff at least a break even proposition.

Scrap prices have dropped so low in the past couple months its almost not worth the fuel to bring it in. Like, down to $15 a ton for sheet metal where it was over $240 a ton lay year. And the scrap places I deal with tell me they may go to donation only by january.

That's.... not a good sign.

Tell me about it. In the suburbs, any piece of metal put out for the trashman lasted roughly as long as it took for one of the gypsies in a beater pickup to turn the corner. Now, I'm seeing metal actually going into the trash trucks. That may not sound unusual, but with a thriving team of scrappies there would almost be turf wars over certain subdivisions. Now it's not worth the gas to pick it up.

US Steel has cut 4000 jobs. Oil prices are low, so nobody is buying pipe or drill rigs. Nobody is buying ships. Not many buying farm machinery because crop prices were down this harvest. The auto industry is still going but that is expected to slump by Christmas. Inventory is already up at higher levels than desired. The Chinese turned off the scrap ships earlier this year, nobody is buying Chinesium products, they say that shipping orders for transoceanic freight are at the lowest levels since the 2007 crash and no bottom yet. The BDI is in the basement.

[Mike OTDP]

Back to the OP...I've seen this done in an industrial park. As previously mentioned, the biggest head-hurter is the ventilation system. Probably the next biggest is the Duffer Brigade, who can't hit the broad side of a barn and think 10 yards is long range for a pistol. They'll shoot up your range in no time.

[HTRN]

Neither of those is the big hurdles. That's just engineering. No, the big hurdles are A)the local political situation, and getting approval for this from same, and B)liability insurance, which will be a very large ongoing cost.

Backstop? Shredded tire. Ventilation systems, will probably cost a quarter million or so.